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Please stop the FUD. It's true that immigrants are over-represented in crime statistics, but that is both as victims and perpetrators, and it must be understood in the light of their socioeconomic status.

Regardless, >99% of the people who are coming to Europe right now are not future rapists.

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Denying a problem does not solve it. Please read up on those statistics before you start wielding terms like 'FUD'. The 'U' in this case in not justified as it is known that non-western immigrants are heavily overrepresented in crime statistics. Neither is the 'D', for the same reasons. The mere fact that a large part of the immigrants will not commit crimes does not mean you should ignore or talk down the crimes perpetrated by those who do. Which leaves the 'F' for fear. That fear is fed for a large part by the fact that discussing these issues immediately leads to outcries of 'FUD', 'Racism', 'Discrimination' and 'Xenophobia'. Not being allowed to discuss something does not make it go away. It makes it grow in the minds of those subjected to the censure. It also does not help in solving these problems since they have to be visible and understood before they can be solved.

No one is saying don't talk about the issue. People are pointing out that "rape town!" poisons the well on serious debate. Come on.

Would I have been better off if I just said "(rape!)" (i.e. remove "town")? Just saying "sex market imbalance" felt too P.C. when the real consequence I was trying to emphasize was yeah, guys are going to behave sexually aggressively towards women when they're economically starving and there are more guys than there are women to go around.

I believe "rape!" is nearly as bad as it's still just charged invective. A more neutral construction would be something like, 'leading to an increase in <crimes>' and I would have no objection to that.

Why not call problems by their name? Does calling rape an increase in sex crimes helps the victim? No, it waters down the problem so some people can keep living in a fantasy bubble, which could pop when facing pointy, definite words like rape, that just happen to describe the problem

People don't like being raped even if you've got a socioeconomic explanation for it :-P

The problem is, 1% of rapists is an awfully high number considering the severity of problem that is rape.

"<1%" suicide terrorists as passengers on your B747 means you're dead.

If a society is not able to reduce this "<1%" to at least strict 0,001% by filtering and background checks, it should probably reject the remaining 99% too. This isn't fair to the rest of immigrants but otherwise it will not be fair to your own citizens.

> 99% of the people

according to whom? you don't get to claim FUD and make up bullshit in the same argument