Meanwhile, the team behind Morrowind seemed to have an uncanny ability to produce names that just felt completely right. Somebody responded to my random thoughts on the topic with this very sound summary:
> Morrowind's names are a pretty remarkable achievement. I don't know who was responsible for it but whoever it was did a really good job of ripping off name "templates" from disparate languages, tweaking them enough to retain their associations but not their meanings, and then sticking with those templates across the board. Modeling the Ashlander names on Assyrian was a stroke of world-building genius.
> Mistborn's names, in contrast, never seem to have much purpose behind them. The templates are inconsistent and arbitrary, and convey no information to the reader. You have fantastical gibberish like vin/reen/camon, standard anglo names like dockson/hammond, bizarre nicknamey nouns like breeze/clubs/spook, and cod-french like valette renoux. It's a mess and it makes it difficult to figure out what this world is when there doesn't seem to be any natural way those names could have emerged in one culture. It's fucking weird.
> That being said the only names I never liked in Morrowind were the Redguard names. I could never figure out what they were supposed to be doing.
> It's a mess and it makes it difficult to figure out what this world is when there doesn't seem to be any natural way those names could have emerged in one culture. It's fucking weird.
I think that's the point. There's nothing natural about that culture. It's very much artificially imposed over what had been a set of distinct and different cultures. The apparently nonsensical naming is traces of that showing.
Actually, I remember one part where Sanderson describes how in the Vorinism religion symmetry is very important, and that the best names are symmetrical or almost symmetrical, like Shallan and Urithiru. I thought that was super creative!
The idea is that culture is very centric to an area and its peoples. Once you leave that area, even if it's only 2 or 3 days by carriage, you transition to a distinct cultural shift. It's as if England and Japan were only separated by 100 miles, but you hit Egypt, Germany, Nigeria, Romania and Mexico along the way. Thus you get a large homogeneous population with their status quo and beliefs alongside markedly different people intermixed.
Plus they call him "Kal". It's relying just as heavily as Morrowind was on pre-existing expectations, just different ones (worse ones, imo).
To me, the different feeling backgrounds of the names of normal people were something I attributed to the world being a big place, and although we were viewing people stuck within a class system, the naming was so "all over the place" because they're an assimilation of the entire planet.
Fast-forward to the newer Mistborn series and the names have seemed to align pretty well to names similar to the nobles of the earlier books. (Which may be attributed to the fact that many of the characters you follow are directly from that lineage.)
In contrast, I've had a harder time with the Stormlight series because of the number of characters, as well as the names of things and places and people. However, I've never been great at epic fantasy either. Maybe that's why the Mistborn books feel so different to me. Books with me in mind?
I found One Hundred Years of Solitude virtually incomprehensible because it features an enormous cast of characters whose names are all similar.
There is José Arcadio Buendía, José Arcadio, Arcadio, Aureliano José, 17 (!) other characters named Aureliano, José Arcadio Segundo and José Arcadio (II) (who is not Segundo).
Aureliano Buendía, Aureliano Segundo and Aureliano Babilonia (Aureliano II) (again, different dude from Segundo), and Aureliano (III).
Úrsula Iguarán, Amaranta Úrsula, and Amaranta.
Remedios Moscote, Remedios the Beauty, and Renata Remedios.
They're all great, but here are some examples
* Only Slightly Bent
* God Told Me To Do It
* Ethics Gradient
* I Blame My Mother
* I Blame Your Mother
* Poke It With A Stick
* Don't Try This At Home
* Contents May DifferPick an ethnicity and just hit random until something fits the character.
I usually don't use the exact name, but it puts me in the right neighborhood of what I want. After that I can tweak it.
Oedipa Maas
Wendell "Mucho" Maas
John Nefastis
Stanley Koteks
Mike Fallopian
...and so forth. Granted, the humour in "Lot 49" is a little more juvenile than, say, "Against the Day".
But if we're talking about The Crying of Lot 49 let's not forget Genghis Cohen, subject of a public spat at the time!
http://dangerousminds.net/comments/thomas_pynchon_punctures_...
While Pynchon's smackdown is devastating, I can't help but feel that he would have written a better one in later years. Actually it would be better if he had simply stopped at "that is another problem entirely". "Perhaps more psychiatric than literary" is clever, but at that point he's bludgeoning.
Another great namer was Mervyn Peake, author of the fabulous "Gormenghast" series. From it, we have:
Lord Sepulchrave Groan
Fuschia Groan
Titus Groan
Steerpike
Swelter, the enormous chef
Dr. Alfred Prunesquallor
Mr. Flay
...and too many more to mention. Any lovers of literary, surrealist grotesquerie should read this series.
> Kalgash is an alien world and it is not our intention to have you think that it is identical to Earth, even though we depict its people as speaking a language that you can understand, and using terms that are familiar to you. Those words should be understood as mere equivalents of alien terms-that is, a conventional set of equivalents of the same sort that a writer of novels uses when he has foreign characters speaking with each other in their own language but nevertheless transcribes their words in the language of the reader. So when the people of Kalgash speak of "miles," or "hands," or "cars," or "computers," they mean their own units of distance, their own grasping-organs, their own ground-transportation devices, their own information-processing machines, etc. The computers used on Kalgash are not necessarily compatible with the ones used in New York or London or Stockholm, and the "mile" that we use in this book is not necessarily the American unit of 5,280 feet. But it seemed simpler and more desirable to use these familiar terms in describing events on this wholly alien world than it would have been to invent a long series of wholly Kalgashian terms.
> In other words, we could have told you that one of our characters paused to strap on his quonglishes before setting out on a walk of seven vorks along the main gleebish of his native znoob, and everything might have seemed ever so much more thoroughly alien. But it would also have been ever so much more difficult to make sense out of what we were saying, and that did not seem useful. The essence of this story doesn't lie in the quantity of bizarre terms we might have invented; it lies, rather, in the reaction of a group of people somewhat like ourselves, living on a world that is somewhat like ours in all but one highly significant detail, as they react to a challenging situation that is completely different from anything the people of Earth have ever had to deal with. Under the circumstances, it seemed to us better to tell you that someone put on his hiking boots before setting out on a seven-mile walk than to clutter the book with quonglishes, vorks, and gleebishes.
> If you prefer, you can imagine that the text reads "vorks" wherever it says "miles," "gliizbiiz" wherever it says "hours," and "sleshtraps" where it says "eyes." Or you can make up your own terms. Vorks or miles, it will make no difference when the Stars come out.
... Granted, this only works because they never meet other characters whose "miles" or "gliizbiiz" need to be disambiguated.
> If you prefer, you can imagine that the text reads "vorks" wherever it says "miles," "gliizbiiz" wherever it says "hours," and "sleshtraps" where it says "eyes." Or you can make up your own terms. Vorks or miles, it will make no difference when the Stars come out.
That reminds me of "How Things Are Made" from Rick and Morty:
That said, Family guy really just used the template as a springboard, it's more about the absurdity of life and our culture than the Simpsons, which relies heavier on social commentary.
In Book of the Long Sun, at least in the city where the story takes place, the men are named for animals or animal products (Silk, Horn, Musk, Remora), the women for plants or plant products (Mint, Rose, Hyacinth, Mucor), and the androids for minerals or other non-living things (Marble, Hammerstone).
Does anyone need to guess the profession of Mistress Overdone, Mistress Quickly, or Doll Tearsheet?
Lesser characters: Shallow and Slender.
Not as sure what to make of Touchstone, Caliban (an anagram for "cannibal"?), and Bottom.
Dickens was just imitating, and in many ways bettering, his master.
Preem Palver => Prime (First) Palaver (Speaker).
Hari Seldon takes the name "Chetter Hummin" => Cheater Human.
Dors Venabili => Gift of the Venerable
Bel Riose is simply Belisarius.
Ebling Mis has bad health (it ebbs) and then he misses the right answer.
/me goes off to explore hyperlinking.
Why yes indeed, that is to ... um, um, something for.