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by matt_d·10y ago·view on hn ↗
Thanks for the reply!

> These numbers refer to the length of the channel in the MOSFET or FinFET between the Source and Drain dopant regions. [...] The only thing marketing has done here is fight between each other on whether or not channel size is the number to focus on, as it benefits their corporation or not.

Right -- I believe this is where the variety (or marketing) creeps in.

Here's what I mean: The various "gate length" definitions (printed, physical, effective, etc.) have a direct (and significant) impact on the ambiguity of the meaning of "process nodes" (that's in addition to the half-pitch interpretation in the DRAM industry); cf. Table 1: ITRS 2013 Data for CMOS Technology “Nodes” in http://semiengineering.com/a-node-by-any-other-name/

For reference (for anyone else reading, I know you know this), "channel length" vs. "gate length" is another difference to take into account: http://vlsi-soc.blogspot.com/2015/12/channel-length-vs-gate-... (More formally -- "Sidebar: Gate Length (Lg) versus Channel Length (L) and Experimental Data versus Equations" in http://www-inst.eecs.berkeley.edu/~ee130/sp06/chp7full.pdf)

Given that, I think it's fair to say the result is that this is more of a marketing name than a directly (in terms of physical feature sizes) interpretable number; as in:

- "At the December meeting, for example, Chenming Hu, the coinventor of the FinFET, began by mapping out the near future. Soon, he said, we’ll start to see 14-nm and 16-nm chips emerge (the first, which are expected to come from Intel, are slated to go into production early next year). Then he added a caveat whose casual tone belied its startling implications: “Nobody knows anymore what 16 nm means or what 14 nm means.”"

- "The switch to FinFETs has made the situation even more complex. Bohr points out, for example, that Intel’s 22-nm chips, the current state of the art, have FinFET transistors with gates that are 35 nm long but fins that are just 8 nm wide."

http://spectrum.ieee.org/semiconductors/devices/the-status-o...

Related: http://spectrum.ieee.org/semiconductors/design/shrinking-pos...