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by alexandercrohde·9y ago·view on hn ↗
What is going on? Are people really afraid that neo-Nazism is gonna make a comeback?

Can't we just acknowledge the situation as a bunch of angry kids saying hurtful things for attention ("I wish you were DEAD!")?

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> Are people really afraid that neo-Nazism is gonna make a comeback?

Both neo-Nazism specifically and fascism and white supremacism more generally are at their strongest (membership, groups, activity, non-opposition from government figures) level in the US in several decades right now.

For neo-Nazism specifically it's probably it's strongest ever (actual support for Nazism was perhaps in some respects stronger in the US at some points prior to WWII, but that wasn't neo-Nazism, and that was before the worst Nazi atrocities occurred, much less were known.)

So, no, it's not a speculative future return to past strength (“comeback”) that is worrying about the neo-Nazi movement.

Could you site some sources for this? I just assumed the news was covering it more heavily because money and there are no big wars going on right now.
Its my aggregate impression from a number of different sources. This covers 2016 and differs in some details from my description:

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/...

Well, I'm not going to read that whole thing. If you want to pull out an excerpt I'd read it.

The reason I think it's dangerous for the masses to decide things are facts based on "aggregate impressions" is that the media is not an objective sampling. For example, perhaps hatecrimes under Obama weren't newsworthy, but under Trump they are more-so because it hits all the emotional buttons.

This would lead to increased reporting, leading to an belief of increased prevalence.

I don't remember people getting as angry about Neonazi-marches in 2010, 2005, etc, but that's anecdotal.

What planet do you live on? That's exactly how you start serious problems. You're also implying that verbal bullying is harmless.
They also actually killed someone.
Zemir Begic was dragged from his car and beaten to death with hammers. In front of his wife.

The black teens that did it were "influenced by the events at Ferguson".

So I guess BLM should also be shut down - but instead, Twitter made a special logo for them...

You fail to show that the attack was by a BLM member, encouraged by BLM, cheered afterwards by BLM, I tied to BLM activity. The only relation is supposed motivation by a event with which BLM was also upset.

This is in no meaningful way parallel to the Charlottesville case.

The guy that drove his car into the crowd was not a member of any of the sponsoring organizations of the "Unite the Right" march, either.

As for after the fact cheering of white people's deaths, may I direct you to the cesspit of Twitter...

Could you cite a source that supports your claim please?
I was responding the the claim that neo-Nazis are just a bunch of harmless angry kids.
One guy killed someone.
I don't disagree with you. But this is a private company that has decided that being associated with, doing business with, or providing a platform for neo-nazis (real or pretend) is bad for their bottomline. They made the correct call.
Who is "we"? Different people acknowledged different things, and that is why there is a dispute.
The feeling of being victimized, whether valid or not, only emboldens these people.