http://www.nytimes.com/images/blogs/freakonomics/posts/HAP23...
As far as why men can't ditch "the baggage" of striving to win in dominance & competence hierarchies, it is because it was necessary for hundreds of thousands of years for a male to achieve reproductive success. And, all else equal, it still is.
In the discussion section of the paper [0] that freakonomics post [1] is about, they talk about limitations and less straightforward interpretations of that measure and that trend. This isn't to say the guardian post is right and you're wrong, but that it isn't impossible both are correct and interesting and worthy of discussion. I don't want your post to shut down or dismiss discussion of OP.
[0] http://www.nber.org/papers/w14969
[1] http://freakonomics.com/2008/08/05/happiness-inequality-2-di...
All my friends since childhood wanted to rule the world if they could, but too much television turned them into spending-machines (and readers of bad articles).
what does it mean to be strong? is it without weakness? or the strength to acknowledge that weakness. If you're so strong you never cry is that really strength?
being dominant sounds like a good idea but once you think about it, it seems a bit absurd. everything humans do well we do as a team. being dominant only means you can be in charge of a team and not a supporting part.
and lastly success. What is success? is it just money? that's hardly a good measure. is it to be happy? and if that comes at the expense of not being "strong and dominant" then what have you left?
You're describing a fantasy, an archetype and it does you and men in general no favours by striving to be something so ephemeral. In the end you will always fail and then where are you?
To be strong is to know that society will pull you down if you don't react with the same or more strength. I'm talking about men that don't have rich and/or protective parents, which is most of us, afaik.
> being dominant sounds like a good idea but once you think about it, it seems a bit absurd. everything humans do well we do as a team. being dominant only means you can be in charge of a team and not a supporting part.
There is so many roles in society still to be fulfilled. Social dynamics are this: dynamic. Someone might be in charge of one interaction but play a supporting part in another. I don't see any incongruence on this.
> and lastly success. What is success? is it just money? that's hardly a good measure. is it to be happy? and if that comes at the expense of not being "strong and dominant" then what have you left?
There is no need to fix the discussion around the 3 adjectives used in the article, but does it really make sense to question that men want to be successful? Not even this can be just simple acknowledged?
> You're describing a fantasy, an archetype and it does you and men in general no favours by striving to be something so ephemeral.
The article described. I just asked why not?
My "Well said!" comment was in reply and approving of the following observation by 'ajurna':
> Nothing wrong with being strong, successful and dominant, right up until you cant take the pressure. Then you are too strong, dominant and successful to ask for help.
I was not responding to 'owebmaster'.
Sorry for the confusion, for anyone who knows me!
What sources might I provide?