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by bozho·8y ago·view on hn ↗
A few clarifications (author here)

1. yes, you are correct, most of the features don't need to be implemented in code and having documented procedures would be sufficient (and that is pointed out in a number of places in the article). However, if you are not a small business or have a lot of users, the time needed to implement the features will be negligible compared to the amount of time needed for handling manual requests.

2. The "legitimate interest" legal basis is harder than it seems and many regulators warn against its overuse. Lawyers in my country are skeptical that regulators will accept legitimate interest in many cases, so "to be on the safe side" they recommend relying on consent. Again, as pointed out in the article, this is up to the legal team to decide.

3. The right to be forgotten is valid even under legitimate interest. Article 17(1)(c) is clear about that - whenever a user objects to their data being processed on the basis of legitimate interest. It is a bit hidden, as Article 17 refers to Article 21 which in turn refers to Article 6, but you can piece the whole scenario anyway.

4. About the best practices - agreed, they are not mandatory under the regulation (as pointed out in the article), but having them in place will demonstrate a higher level of compliance.

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Thanks for commenting my comment.

2. Yes, up to the legal team and what types of processing you do. If you do processing that the data subject would not expect you to do or that is not in their interest you have to consider this carefully. Maybe allowed or not under legitimate interest but you have to be careful and do a proper assessment. I believe, and I have heard many EU data protection lawyers state, that consent is a last resort option. Probably not universally shared but many ppl appears to think in that way. Also, remember that consent bypasses important principles, such as the necessity test present for all other legal basis.

3. I agree, both RTBF and SAR rights under legitimate interest but no absolute requirement to automate the process in any case. Implementing voluntarily data portability good practice which could tip the balance when using legitimate interest, see below.

4. Yes, and concerning legitimate interest, if you implement these best practice measures this could “tip the balance” in your favor if you read the WP29 legitimate interest opinion.

It seems like when using legitimate interest as a basis for processing that _what you do_ with the data is much more important than what it is you’re collecting in the first place.

When registering an account with an online service, you will probably have to give up your email address. The legitimate interest is to be able to let you log in again and to send password reset emails, or other account related notifications like “we have detected a suspicious login from another continent”.

If you want to stick someone on your marketing email list, asking for consent is a much better option! Unless the context is extremely clear (the email field is specifically for signing up for the email list), asking for consent seems safer.

But in both cases, the basis is about the processing of the data, not the data itself.

Yes, this is important - GDPR is mainly about how you are allowed to use data, ie for what purposes you are processing the data (although collection and storage is also “processing” as a side point)
You would not use legitimate interests to cover off your processing of data in connection with letting a user log in to your site, if it is a requirement of using the service that you are logged in, for example to authenticate who you are. The correct processing basis here would be to process data to provide a service, not under legitimate interests.

If you were processing someone's data to, for example, ensure the safety of your network/detect unauthorised login attempts, then that would likely fall under legitimate interests, because it is processing that is not necessary to provide the underlying service, but is in the users' interests to ensure the protection of their personal data.

Regarding your first statement: It depends if you have a valid contract with the user and the data processing is sufficiently related to the performance of that contract.