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by matheusmoreira·8y ago·view on hn ↗
Everybody knows what the root cause is: corruption. Everything in this country can be explained by that. Even people with integrity will eventually be corrupted because it's the only way to get things done. What can citizens do about that? I don't know.

I'm glad you got to visit the museum before it was destroyed.

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I remember a similar case (citation needed, don't have a link available) where a museum was destroyed by fire and the director hurried to announce that everything was destroyed.

Years later it turned out that some originals were put up for auction since they were alive and well in some private collections. Many times the original is not displayed for the public anyway and a very good copy is used instead. So someone in the museum got money for selling the originals while the copy was still on display, then got money from the insurance, with the fire covering up everything perfectly (either by accident, or for the insurance money, or to cover up the fact that the originals went missing).

Of course this would just confirm the corruption or poor maintenance arguments.

No, it's worse than corruption. It's a total and utter lack of interest in properly funding culture and science.
Corruption thrives on the population's general disinterest in politics and education. To say Brazilians are disinterested in these subjects is an understatement.
>Even people with integrity will eventually be corrupted because it's the only way to get things done.

Could you expand on this, or maybe give an example?

Even if you become a politician, you cannot do what you set out to do without support from others. They will ask you to your face what kind of profit they'll be making off of your changes or reforms. Why should they support you? What's in it for them? If they don't like the answer, you might as well give up because it's not happening. There is no such thing as "this idea is objectively good, let's put it in practice".

I don't know when it started but it's part of the government's culture now. It's common knowledge too: people talk about institutionalized corruption openly, citing investigations, comments by officials and even judges. It's a systemic problem and I have no idea what people are supposed to do in order to fix something like that. It's very demotivating and demoralizing.

This is actually a huge reason why lots of people want the military dictatorship back. The logic is (1) the military cares about Brazil and believes in the country's potential, and (2) they will do whatever they believe is necessary to make the country great, regardless of any individual's interests. Our history with dictatorships doesn't quite validate that logic, obviously.

I think they mean that following ordinary procedures requires bribes. As in if you wanted to live the life you currently do, some bribes would be required somewhere.