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by RickJWagner·7y ago·view on hn ↗
Plenty of people see it as the Democrats in Congress who are holding things up. (After all, there is universal agreement that border security is important. Also, many prominent Democrats have pledged support for physical barriers in the recent past.)

I tend to agree with Cher, which doesn't happen often. She says that Democrats can be seen as heroes if they compromise on the wall to re-open the government. (But if they do not do this, Cher believes the Democrats will ultimately suffer for the fallout.) Time may tell if she is right or not.

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>Plenty of people see it as the Democrats in Congress who are holding things up.

Yes, we call those people Republicans.

That's fair.

Both sides usually blame each other. During the Obama administration, there was a government shutdown as well. Democrats blamed the Republican congress, Republicans blamed Obama and the Democrats.

It really does (or should) take cooperation when things are as evenly distributed as they are. I only wish there were incentives for the politicians to work faster.

I agree, but I'd take work together to find common ground first over work faster. I think in some respects when they work faster or in complete agreement we get things passed that are not in the best interest of the american people/values (Patriot act comes to mind).
Any dissent from within gets the dissenter grouped with the opposition?

The 116th congress is shaping up to be another round of Democrats snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

I do think it's a safe bet that anyone who blames the blue team for everything will tend to be from the red team, yes. That is, unfortunately, the way American politics works.
Right... Trump's exact words: Yes, if we don't get what we want... I will shutdown the government. I am proud to shutdown the government for border security. I will take the mantle. I will be the one to shut it down. I won't blame you for it. I will take the mantle. I will shut it down.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t7bYWM9zAw

Not his exact words if you watch the video you sourced. Close but missing some key phrases in there that provide context.
You're more than welcome to make modifications to my quote that you feel would change the context and I'll even update my comment. It's mostly word for word but I did it pretty fast and just with two listens so it's not 100%, but as close as I felt it needed to be too relay his message.
What do you think was omitted that would change that quote?