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by ValdikSS·7y ago·view on hn ↗
No, Github DID NOT delete my account. My account is hidden from public (shadowban).

No, this is likely not because of GoodbyeDPI or Super UEFIinSecureBoot Disk.

Most probably it's because of someone has been spamming from my ISP's /24 IP range.

>His twitter account confirming that: twitter.com/ValdikSS

No, learn to read.

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Thanks for the input. So much hyperbole being thrown around in these comments.
Thanks for GoodbyeDPI. Do you plan to mirror it in Gitlab?
I want to upvote you because you're the original author and thus your comment is super relevent, but I think the last sentence of your post violates this site's guidelines. What in your tweet was misinterpreted?
>but I think the last sentence of your post violates this site's guidelines

I'm really getting pissed off when people overinterpret other people texts and create "news" based on their biased misinterpretation. What I stated in twitter post is that any company can do anything with your data or account, and you should not rely on any free service on the internet. That's it, only that. I did not say that my github account is deleted or that the reason behind that is one of my repository.

Moreover, for some reason people tend to read only that first tweet while what I wanted to say is in next 5 tweets too.

My primary language is Russian, and I'm usually very cautious of my written language and always try to write any texts (emails, blog posts, Russian craiglist listings) as clear, unambiguously and literate as possible, but always see people who just don't read. This is not an insult, I mean it literally: PLEASE learn to read in full.

> This is not an insult, I mean it literally: PLEASE learn to read in full.

I find it amusing that wanting other people to learn to read can be and often is considered insulting. Perhaps there's also a bit of a culture clash - Russians are relatively direct.

Spending your time trying to write clearly and unambiguously likely won't be appreciated much, but it does make the world a better place.

> I find it amusing that wanting other people to learn to read can be and often is considered insulting.

It's an insult when that person does know how to do it.

This issue wasn't related with his capacity to read either, which further enhance how it was used as an insult.

It was a misunderstanding, that's all. No one is specifically responsible for it.

I don't see what your are arguing at all. I see full intend of abusing the "misunderstanding" to push fake news. We should be more cautious to the adversary trends lately instead of focusing on someone's own feeling.
> Moreover, for some reason people tend to read only that first tweet while what I wanted to say is in next 5 tweets too.

I find it concerning that Twitter has become such a common way to share news. The short message format can make it impossible to get a full point across reliably.

Expecting people to read in full before commenting seems too much to ask nowadays. I wonder where this will take us.
Well, you are assuming incorrectly that I didn't read anything in full. I did read everything and I understand your views. But I didn't misinterpret them, I didn't think your views on the issue are very relevant here to even include them. Neither are relevant specifics of something that appears to be deleted to everyone, but you. The facts are: it is deleted, only Github knows why.
I think he's understandably upset that his own Twitter account is cited as a source for something that he does not agree with and did not suggest.

It seems like all that his Twitter feed confirms is that his page shows as 404, but nothing more than that. He did not mention any association between the ban and his work, instead on Twitter he's just saying self-hosting is more reliable. The latest tweet implies the shadow ban ("invisible issues, invisible commits, invisible code comments!").

>I think he's understandably upset that his own Twitter account is cited as a source for something that he does not agree with and did not suggest.

He sure is understandably upset. It sure explain WHY he answered like that, but it's not an excuse to act like that.

> It seems like all that his Twitter feed confirms is that his page shows as 404

That's pretty much what I implied. But added twitter so that people can see his perspective.

Read the misinformation, and hyperbole being thrown around in every other thread inside this post.

All based on basically a misunderstanding, which I don't believe was done out of malice. But at the end of the day this is essentially "fake news". Again, likely born out of ignorance, not malice. But I think the person being misrepresented saying "learn to read" is hardly over the top.

Your twitter postings are ambiguous.

> 2019-04-10

> Many people, incl. friends of mine, rely on "cloud" for file storage, use "free" messengers, listen to music on "services", and expect companies to provide stable and consistent service.

> This is what you get in the end: https://github.com/ValdikSS [image of 404 error]

> 2019-04-11

> I can create invisible issues, invisible commits, invisible code comments!

The first one sure looks like "deleted".

In the second, you could be talking about being shadowbanned, but getting that depends on knowing what it is.

Also, being shadowbanned is arguably worse than deleted. I've seen shadowbanned accounts post for many months, apparently unaware of their status. When I see one with a listed email address, I let them know, as a courtesy.

That's because the topic of my tweets is not about github, it's about people who (for the reason I don't understand) tend to rely on free third-party services on the internet, and expect stability and consistency from these services, but always forgot to read terms of service and do not expect that the service may delete their data of whole account without any explanation.

I always expect that, because I always read terms of service. This is an excerpt from Github ToS:

>GitHub has the right to suspend or terminate your access to all or any part of the Website at any time, with or without cause, with or without notice, effective immediately. GitHub reserves the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason at any time.

So I don't understand why people give attention to some problems with my account, why anybody should give a clue and why this is a topic for discussion. Nothing unexpected has happened. I never stored sensitive data on github, never used it for OAuth, and this account does not have serious value for me. I have all the data backed up locally, on external drive, on several others git hostings and on remote computers. I don't know the reason yet, Github did not send any notifications before shadowban and I did not receive a reply from support yet, but I'm pretty sure that neither GoodbyeDPI nor Super UEFIinSecureBoot repository are to blame. Most probably this is false positive of their anti-spam system.

I get all that.

But this isn't about you.

This is about people being concerned that GitHub is banning or shadowbanning accounts for political reasons. Your GitHub account may be worthless to you, but many have (stupidly enough, I agree) relied on GitHub. Consider the confusion if GitHub took down Docker. Or even algo or Streisand.