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I am paying US$5 a month for python's memory hogging.

Running Mailman it will not run in 1GB of ram (the US$5 VPS) so I had to give it 2GB. 2GB? For a mail list server?

Had the same problem running motioneye. It will not run on a Raspberry PI Zero. It is advertised to run on a Zero (Apparently I could squeeze it on by doing some Python magic....)

What total crap is Python! What waste, what hubris, what technical failure!

I suspect the problem is actually Django - what hubris! NIH! lighttpd is running sweetly, with some rust templating in a acceptable fraction of the memory.

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But moving up your stack of desire, what alternate to mailman would you live with? Five a month is $60 a year. Assuming you value your own time at professional wages, this job is worth an hour of your time at most before the opportunity cost of complaint is cheaper than replacement.

opportunity cost of complaint

No, what he actually bought for his $60/year was license to complain about mailman & python :)

The python complaint licence fee was the best deal I ever made.

You have completely missed the point. The US$5/month is not a hardship. What is a hardship is taking what used to be done in 40k Perl and require 2G. It is a affront!

What is a waste is writing a poor quality greedy web server when Apache/Lighttpd/Nginx all exist and are much much better.

What really cost me was the two weeks I spent trying to make motioneye (python) and motioneyeos (not) work as advertised. As advertised! It is not only that the python is too bloated that stops it working, it does but there are other reasons. Very clearly no body has really tested it. It is a symptom of python culture. Shoddy and arrogant.

I feel terribly burnt by it. Twice. So my stack of desire in this domain is quite small and simple: Never to hear again from python! A very personal POV, be happy in your python hacking. I saw the opportunity to have a public rant and I took it!