Or take a look here
back
2 comments
I wouldn't say that there are spam in the submissions, probably the vast majority of HNers does not go to new page, so it really does not affect the vast majority. Even though it does ignored the last recommendation on submission guidelines[1], but even then I do not see much problems about that.
> it really does not affect the vast majority
It does affect the majority, because worthy submissions get lost in this flood and are not promoted to the front page.
Y combinator encourage posting news by their rating system. Nothing wrong here by doing exactly what YC encourages. Why not post if I find good news? They even make it extremely easy by their bookmarklet. Also it gives me a great way to keep good news in one place: my profile! :)
Generally the unspoken rule here is that if you are taking up most of /newest you are posting too much. Sorry that's unintuitive; it's quite weird that Hacker News has lots of secret rules.
It's not a secret, it's in the guidelines.
"Y combinator encourage posting news by their rating system. Nothing wrong here by doing exactly what YC encourages. Why not post if I find good news? They even make it extremely easy by their bookmarklet."
There is absolutely no question that you're abusing the system. You're purposefully degrading the experience of everyone, and of course you're aware of it. Whether there's a rule about this sort of thing is completely irrelevant and stating that "Y combinator encourage" this behavior by not implementing functionality to stop it is simply disingenious.
Any system can be gamed or abused if you just make an effort. In the end it comes down to your (missing) sense of honor. Do you want to contribute or would you rather like to corrupt the world? Corrosion is always easier of course, and may even reward you in the short run. And I guess we already are rewarding you by talking about you, so I guess the strategy paid off. HN wouldn't be the first site to die like this, but I'm guessing this is not the time yet.
The thing that I do not like about it is that it floods out other submissions from the "New" page. Surely there are better and less disruptive ways of keeping track of news you find interesting.
Maybe something like a cool-off period, similar to what is used for deeply nested threads, will be good.
NO that is not my primary reason. Primary reason for posting is it is Headline news and would be posted anyways. Why should I not be able to post? It will be posted sometime in the next 2 hours anyways.
The 'new' page is a spare resource, there's a limited number of people looking over it so if it is flooded with bursts of new posts then the ability to promote worthy news to the main page is damaged as the amount of time spent in the 'new' section decreases and you're not bringing new independent eye-balls to evaluate and upvote them.
There is a rule for dealing with this scarcity: don't bulk-post. Take your best guess for the most worthy news, post it and then respect the waiting period before you post again.
Because the guidelines ask you not to :)
Please don't submit so many links at once that the new page is dominated by your submissions.
> Why should I not be able to post? It will be posted sometime in the next 2 hours anyways.
This shows a sense of entitlement that not only goes against the spirit of the community but also against the published guidelines as others have mentioned. Here's a list of some guidelines you've either ignored or are ignorant of:
> If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity. ('what to expect' at CES isn't exactly intellectually gratifying, and certainly not two stories about the exact same topic within minutes of each other)
> If the original title includes the name of the site, please take it out, because the site name will be displayed after the link anyway. (Almost every link you submitted)
> If the original title begins with a number or number + gratuitous adjective, we'd appreciate it if you'd crop it. E.g. translate "10 Ways To Do X" to "How To Do X," and "14 Amazing Ys" to "Ys." Exception: when the number is meaningful, e.g. "The 5 Platonic Solids." (Such as "10 Transportation Trends That Rocked 2010 | Autopia | Wired.com")
> Please don't submit so many links at once that the new page is dominated by your submissions. (Obvious)
If you're unsure about what is expected of a community, there's a couple of approaches you might adopt. You can bombard the community with a ton of questions which, depending on the community, many not go over well... like your "Ask HN" about how to search HN -- is it really too difficult to find the "Search" link on the footer of every page? Or you can adopt the age-old tradition called lurking.
Why and I get -points on this comment? All I am trying to do is reply to a comment directed to me and you give me minus pts? Come on!
I didn't downvote that comment, but only because I can't. I obviously can't speak for those that did, but I'd downvote your reply because it seems more an ill-formulated rationalization than an actual answer.
Posting a link just because it "would be posted anyways"? That, to me, is an admission of sorts to gaming the system; that you're "sharing" those links only for the karma, not because you're genuinely interested in the content you're linking to.
I didn't downvote you, but i guess that they don't agree on the fact that those links would have been posted anyway...
This is ridiculous This is amy inteial reply to this post and because of all the replies under it It get -pts. I just replied to the guys post directed . Why am I being penalized by answering his question?