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by Rochus·6y ago·view on hn ↗
> Value to society is rarely obvious

It's rather obvious. There are even offices that collect the relevant statistical data.

> you can eliminate most physicists and mathematicians

No. Both disciplines are required by a lot of companies today. If you have a look at www.indeed.com there are currently 3.5k jobs for physicists. There are subjects where there might be a dozen jobs per year per thousand graduates. But engineers are missing everywhere.