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As an Apple customer I'm 100% happy with public developments like this. I really believe Apple tries to take hardware security seriously and an exploit it the open like this is surely to be addressed in the next generation of devices.

Apple consumer devices have been shown to resist state-level actor threats in the past and even if current devices won't be 100% resistant forever I trust Apple to be a couple of steps ahead every gen.

Of course, I'm jumping ship as soon as 100% open-source and verifiably secure HW+OS stack is available. But until then, it's Apple :P

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How did you get the information that apple devices resist state-level actor threats?

Repeatedly state actors have broken into iphones and icloud accounts, and apple laptops are frequently the first devices to fall in the Pwn2Own contests.

Don't know why you were downvoted, it's common knowledge that state actors can break Apple's encryption. Apple makes a huge show of refusing to break their own encryption but with a subpoena they legally have to provide the encrypted data and then state actors just go elsewhere for cracking.

citation needed

These discussions always conflate iCloud data, including device backups, with on-device access. It is possible to use iOS without iCloud.

On the flip side, the FBI had to (probably) decap chips to get into that one shooter’s iPhone, which is pretty good security IMO.

Did they actually get in to it?

It was an iPhone 5c, a pre secure-enclave iPhone so they were able to break in at the end. Apparently Cellebrite were the ones who cracked it.