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by BoxOfRain·5y ago·view on hn ↗
> "failed public services"? Are we talking about the systems that were all privatized to make them more "efficient"?

Honestly, I think this failure runs deeper than something like whether it's privatised or nationalised. These services were mostly rubbish when they were nationalised and they're still rubbish now under privatisation. Nobody sane thinks the era of privatisation is any good in my opinion, but it's not like what it replaced was exactly well-managed. We had things like the Beeching Axe in that era which absolutely screwed over many non-metropolitan communities and continues to even today especially in Wales.

The UK for the best part of a century has never been good at public transport on a national scale. Public or private, profit or non-profit, every single attempt to make it less of a skip fire has ended in failure. I think the only way we're going to see improvement is if we start looking at the root causes rather than ideologically-motivated political solutions. This isn't a political issue, it's a geographical and an engineering issue.

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I'm fairly certain it's a political issue. There was some good stuff in the Beeching changes, the main flaw was the aim of trying to reduce the subsidies, while ignoring the subsidies being given to cars (which at that point were still pouring out lead into the atmosphere), which is fundamentally a (stupid) political decision.

Rural vs urban is a factor in things like this, but some countries just make a decision to have good trnsport (or health or internet) for everyone, and some countries decide that certain types of transport are for the poor and let them rot. Like many "that's just the way it is" arguments, it can be easily undermined by looking outside the specific country.

The UK seems to have done OK with broadband (at least compared with the US), though again politically motivated decisions in the past have hobbled early roll out of fibre-optic decades ago.

https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/world-of-tech/how-the-uk-l...

Note I just googled up that article, which seems fairly comprehensive, but I had engineers in the family who were involved and said pretty much the same thing at the time.