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by FinnKuhn·4y ago·view on hn ↗
I personally believe that you need to find a compromise between a framework that lasts very long and party that can be recycled so you can adopt the house depending on your needs without needing to redo everything (for example foundation and some integral supports could probably be designed as a framework that can be adapted while walls, windows, room configuration, doors, etc. need to be changed eventually and therefore should be recyclable).
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We already do this with commercial construction. Every floor is just a big box that can be sectioned off as the new owner sees fit.

The key is that the structure is basically self standing with nothing but the outer walls, and if it's a tower, the center core instead.

Add a vertical chase way too to bottom for easy reconfiguring of cables and pipes and you can basically do anything you want until the structure fails.

Modern residential doesn't build like this because it would be expensive and probably pretty ugly. It's a lot cheaper to get your structure in bits and pieces by stacking walls on walls on the foundation then have just an outside structure and then have the floors and roof spanning outside to outside.

But it could easily be done with the materials we have.

Another major thing is the drop ceiling. It's designed to make access easy so that you can run cables and new plumbing anywhere you want.

It's ugly so you'd want to find a way to have a modular ceiling that isn't a drop ceiling, but maybe that works for you.

Last, for residential, you may butt up against height issues as to be modular like that you're want to have a couple feet extra between floors so you have room to move things around without opening things up.

> Another major thing is the drop ceiling. It's designed to make access easy so that you can run cables and new plumbing anywhere you want. > It's ugly so you'd want to find a way to have a modular ceiling that isn't a drop ceiling, but maybe that works for you.

If you build with trusses for floors instead of joists, you can get a lot of the same benefits as a drop ceiling without the ugliness. You can run plumbing/vents/whatever though the trusses without destroying the whole ceiling to get access. You might not need to cut into the ceiling at all depending on what you’re doing and what existing access you have (e.g. an unfinished utility space may allow access to supply new power cables).

Of course patching the ceiling is hardly a big concern if you’re talking about a structure surviving for 1000 years.

The 1000 years is a separate conversation I think than the modular concept. One could lead to another, but depending on how modular you wanted to be, access to the ceiling is a must.

On the other hand, if you make the trusses large enough and give an /attic/crawl access you could go up there and do the thing without needing to renovate. Then all center walls are non structural and you can move them as you please.

Come to think of it, I might build a house like this.

You can also leave the mechanical on the outside and not cover it too. I guess there's a certain beauty to me in the robot parts but I don't think many would like that.

How often you expect to reconfigure is a huge factor. Drop ceilings make complete sense in many commercial buildings, where access to change/move cables and whatnot probably happens every year. For residences, that sort of work happens a lot less frequently.

You can also get away with ugly ceilings more easily when they are higher. A drop ceiling 8 feet or less from the floor is an eyesore. At 12 feet up it’s a lot less noticeable. Of course if you have very high ceilings you can often just leave them uncovered and have a more industrial aesthetic. You have to be more intentional about routing all the utilities then.