1. Don't go into a michelin level restaurant expecting "well it's expensive so it should be what I normally eat but better", think of it as its own category of food, that happens to have a really high buy-in price. Lots more crazy flavors, presentation, exotic ingredients, etc. It's not that it has to be 'better' than the best $12 bbq joint you've ever been to, just different.
2. Many very high end restaurants have great lunch deals, which can really cut the price to try them.
That was one of the greater discoveries I've made about expensive restaurants. My wife and I had previously spent over $400 on an anniversary dinner at the Metropolitan Grill in Seattle. We're "common as muck", too; just a couple of country hicks from Indiana. It was nice, glad we went, wouldn't likely spend that kind of money on a meal again.
Then I started a job literally across the street in the Exchange building. Boss wants to go the "the Met" for lunch. On my salary?!?! That's when I found out that for $12, one can get one the better burgers one will ever eat. I recommend that steak salad, too.
* Note: all prices from like ten years ago.
When I went to Chez Panisse for the first time—not Michelin starred, but still well-regarded—I didn't know what to expect. What surprised me was that it was just "what I normally eat" but better. Not fancy, not exotic, not flashy; at a surface level, it was less interesting than food I've had at "normal" restaurants... but it was somehow just better. It surprised me because I hadn't realize just how much room there was to improve on the details and execution of, well, "normal" cooking.
I've occasionally seen something similar with codebases. Most code does what it needs to do, more or less, and hopefully it's not awful, but there are all kinds of sharp edges, inconsistencies, extra sources of friction—when I need to make a change, it's doable, but even the happy path has a bit of extra friction here and there, things that are clearly missing or in the wrong place or a bit hacky. And then, once in a while, I run into code that doesn't have those problems. Everything just somehow comes together; when I need to do something, there's an obvious way of doing it; when there's something odd in the design, it ends up addressing something I hadn't thought about. Somebody wrote the code with experience, attention to detail and the will to do quality work for its own sake. I don't know if it's the same with cooking, but with this kind of code, it generally took less time and effort for the people writing it than I'd expect from teams working on messier codebases.
Running into things like this is a visceral reminder that even "normal" things—normal food, normal code—can just be better. A lot.
I didn't get point 1 til years later, after more reading. I'd tried uber fancy restaurants a few times, and each time left disappointed and really almost feeling cheated. Odd flavors (to me), small portions, a lot of art on the plate. I never really judged it based on anything but the value and taste, and if you do that, you'll likely be disappointed as I was.
I guess I realized I'm just a simple guy who likes common foods, but hey, we're all different.
A hobby of mine is picking a neighborhood and going to every single eatery, from possibly-illegal hole-in-the-walls and popups to fast food chains to bakeries and delis to cafes to fine dining establishments. I think I've only been to one Michelin-starred restaurant though — there aren't a lot of those.
Restaurants have to cater to their clientele, even high-end ones. If you offer something creative on your menu, odds are there won't be a large market for it because most people want familiar fare. There are a lot of expensive-yet-conservative Italian restaurants in the US, for example — with lots of patrons who love them! The chefs may chafe at the constraints, but running a restaurant and bringing pleasure and satisfaction to your customers is a different endeavor than exploring the possibilities of cuisine.
If you want to experience unfamiliar flavors, presentations, and ingredients your best bet is to go to places run by and primarily frequented by first-generation immigrants. It's not that such eateries are any more adventurous — the same economic forces constrain them — but they target a clientele with different tastes.
The 80 eateries I've visited in San Diego's City Heights district offered way more variety and novel-to-me fare than the 70 or so restaurants I checked out on a tour of downtown San Diego. That's because City Heights has large enclaves of Mexican, Vietnamese and Somali immigrants, enough to sustain businesses which cater primarily to the tastes of those enclaves.
I can think of some high-end restaurants that had very interesting menus, but in my experience there is only a weak correlation between price and adventurousness. It may be different though for specifically Michelin-starred restaurants, since that's a curated list.
By analogy, don't think of fine dining as a big-budget blockbuster film. It's not better than other movies by having the biggest setpieces, the most explosions, the hottest stars, and the loudest soundtracks. It's not just more more more.
Think of it more like an arthouse film. Fine dining should be some of the best food you've ever had, but it should also be different from what you've had. Since much of their clientele eats out often, they are seeking not just quality but novelty.
During the early stages of the pandemic when a lot of restaurants switched to carry-out only, Lazy Bear (a two Michelin star restaurant in SF) started Camp Commissary, where you could pick up different food items and meals to go. My wife isn’t into fine dining and would never eat the main tasting menu at their restaurant (which I had once before the pandemic), but she absolutely loved the to go items, because they were essentially what you describe: normal types of food cooked by Michelin star chefs (maybe with a fancy twist, like Morel mushrooms on a grilled cheese or fermented local vegetables).
I had the best pimento cheese chicken biscuit, duck sandwich, pop tarts, blackberry cocktails, snickerdoodle cookie, pea soup, lamb chops, tomato pie, pasta, and pork & beans of my life. There’s got to be a market for regular food cooked REALLY well. We spent tons on that place, and it was worth every penny (well, except one of the salads, which had like two pieces of lettuce and a grape).
Well said!
Also, don't be the guy who goes in on a mission to dunk on the expensive restaurant. That's about as cool as the person who watches a popular TV show just so they can smugly complain about it. Just don't.
No, not everyone can afford to try a Michelin Star restaurant. A lot of Michelin restaurants suck. And you don't have to pay a ton for a good meal; some of the best food I've ever had has cost $10.
However, food is right up there with music as something that connects people. A taste or smell can unlock a memory you thought you lost forever, or create new ones you'll never forget. There's a reason meals are so prominent in movies and literature. Not everyone is lucky enough to have a good relationship with food (in fact, for many, the connotations can be quite negative), and I'm so happy for this person that she loved it.
When done right, nice restaurants are an experience. From start to finish, from the food to the drink to the decor to the people, it's closer to going to a Broadway play or art museum than it is a normal meal.
For people who can afford it readily, the experience is almost lost. It can become a status symbol, where the Instagram story is more important than enjoying it. It was so charming to see this through the eyes of someone who had no pretentious goals going into it, and had a wonderful time.
We walked into this little Italian restaurant, ordered an expensive Merlot and a tomahawk steak to share. First the wine, "holy shit" was the exact words I used when I first tasted it, super smooth, to the point where you couldn't feel even the smallest bit of sting from the alcohol.
Then the steak, the tenderest steak I've ever had. You cut of pieces of fat and as soon as you put it in your mouth the thing just melts away.
In the end dinner set us back 250 euros, and much like this lady, I walked away going "that was worth every penny". Food like that isn't just about the experience, it's also the memory. That dinner I had is now almost 4 years ago but I still remember the wine and the slightly salted steak kisses fingers like an italian
Professional staff can handle just about anything, and there's not much they haven't seen. The secret I think is to know before hand who is paying, have a sense of the budget from online menus before ordering so you don't have to focus on the prices, respect the personal boundaries of the servers, and if it's your first time, consider that you'd like to be welcome back.
I don't think any of them have a gong they smash whenever they see someone using their dinner fork for the salad, and some decorative table settings actually break with convention and can be a bit mystifying, so if you don't know what's what, ask. They can accomodate most things, but make dietary restrictions known during the reservation, as they'll usually prep for them. They're about providing a unique experience, so if your needs aren't medical, consider whether you're open to a new experience before spending a lot on one. Fine dining restaurants employ dozens of people with specialized skills, and provide livings that support families, so go, get treated like royalty for a bit, and use it as a waypoint for how well you can be treated and how good something as simple as food can be, then use the expereince to enrich your life.
Love this! Her synopsis could have easily gone the other way at “tiny plates of food at big prices”.
The experiences and attention to detail are what I like most about Michelin starred places.
Especially how a place so fancy can have servers that treat you so personably, which is her experience as well. “Lick the plate! I’ll cover for you!”
I’ve been to many places with inferior levels of validation that were much more pretentious, like the Italian places all over America where nothing is in English but you have to pretend you’re cultured enough to just know what everything is - there’s more English on menus in actual Italy! Even in the middle of nowhere!
The last thing is how the servers know when to be present without hovering or interrupting too often or too infrequently. Some places must have secret passages just for the wait staff and servers.
I always loved that. A) it's funny how our past experiences can completely (and sometimes incorrectly) shape our perceptions of the now. B) food can be such a wonderful thing - the smallest thing can make you so absolutely happy. And when someone just nails it (simple or not!), it really is quite the experience.
I've been to a few Michelin starred restaurants. For me, it's surprisingly inconsistent. I can have a meal that I absolutely adore (L'Astrance) and a meal that's merely decent (Pujol). That said, I try to enter each experience with an open mind. There's no cause for cynicism at the dinner table.
As someone who grew up with public school teachers for parents and corn fields surrounding my house, it was transcendental. The staff was just as lovely as the food, and it's easily the best gift I've ever gotten from an employer.
I just ate at SAGA in NYC in January; the servers were amazingly knowledgeable, wonderfully approachable, and ours wore a jumpsuit and sneakers. Not snooty, but ask about the wine and they'll happily share a wealth of information about the region it's from.
If you leave a restaurant feeling worse because of a servers behavior then it's their fault, not yours.
They've bought up all the locals and put them under this banner. Slow, buggy, low information-density.
This is how the BBC looked as early as I can vaguely remember it: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/vote_2005/default.stm better in almost every way.
It's true they don't like to be so crass as to talk about money, but other than the obvious (if you want another drink, it'll cost ya), things offered to you are often without charge. Little tastes of this, more of that. The prices on the menu are high, but it seems that once you've swallowed that, when you receive the bill, it's lower than you expect.
I've since been thinking, we spend a lot of money for certain experiences in life, but paying such amounts for a meal is for most people ridiculous. Our sense of taste is a big factor that can perceive a staggering amount of combinations, so I think it is justifiable to spend a bit more money to go on a kind of culinary adventure from time to time.
One thing to remember or value when you go to these places is that you're not largely paying for the food. You're paying for 4-5x the people per diner than any normal restaurant -- you're paying for their time to pore over the ingredients more carefully than you would yourself, their time to learn about and explain it to you, their time to come up with amusing and interesting ways to prepare it, their time to wait on you like a sultan and never fail to bore your palate.
Not saying that it's worth it for everyone or that it's even completely justified as they think it is (every artist thinks that any excessive amount they spend on some esoterica is "worth it"), but that's really where your $ are going. Maybe that's the way to think about it -- you're paying for art.
And being one of the few diners who the cost of paying for people's livelihoods is spread over (especially if those people have student loans to pay for) -- that is expensive.
Highly recommend Single Thread in Healdsburg if you do decide to go to one. Yes I did pick it partly because of the name and I'm a software engineer.
It is truly an unforgettable experience from start to finish. It's obvious that so much thought and care goes into everything that you can't even really compare it to a regular "nice" restaurant. It's an entirely different class of dining, and this article conveyed it perfectly. Made me want to prioritize getting to an actual Michelin star restaurant.
I can mirror the sentiment from this article. Tasting menus are absolutely phenomenal, and worth the money, though of course I couldn't afford to have that every single day.
The idea of paying good money to a chef so they they can thoughtfully procure food instead of buying slabs of meat in bulk, and prepare it in such a way as to arouse the senses, is not really that wild of an idea (perhaps paying a multiple of a standard meal would be offensive to some, I get that.)
My only criticism is that while the food is frickin' amazing, you only get one bite of it, per dish. Maybe two. Maybe that's part of the appeal.
The best cup of black coffee I’ve ever had was at a three star restaurant. It was just a simple cup of coffee but it was just made completely perfectly. Great beans I’m sure, a good roast, brewed exactly the right way. You can of course get that outside of a Michelin starred restaurant easily, but the point is in a three star restaurant everything is perfect, even the cup of coffee you have after dinner. They didn’t teen me where the beans were from or who roasted it, it was pedestrian for them.
CPQR was weird. We did three courses from the menu. Appetizer was the best, but the most memorable was the second course, though not for the taste. I order a pasta dish and before they serve they place a steak knife next to me. A steak knife, what the hell did I order? The dish comes and looking at it I'm still wondering what exactly I ordered...
Manresa was also a unique experience. First all the dishes were absolutely, amazing. One person in our party did not like fish except for scallops, which they accommodated. We proceed to have five fish based dishes in a row. Even though all five were fantastic, at the end my mouth felt like a tide pool, and having grown up on the beaches of Santa Cruz, I know that taste/feeling well. On the third fish dish, our friend got his scallops and boy did they look good. Then on the fifth and last fish dish he was served squab. The rest of us looked longingly at that bird, our collective mouths watering. He was lucky to leave that table alive...
I think the food was more inventive and more perfectly cooked at CPQR and Manresa but it's Gary Danko I would like to go back to.
In the United States, the Michelin guide awards stars in NYC, Chicago, DC, and California.
Whether it's worth it depends entirely on how much money you have. If you are FAANG Engineer rich, you could probably eat there every day if you'd wanted to. In that case, yeah it's worth it. If you earn the median salary in the EU, then nah.
The key to repeated pleasure in this arena is to not fetishize luxury or cost, but rather to focus on the things that matter to you like flavor, ingenuity or even authenticity. Personally, I’ve had more fine dining experiences than the average person but I’d trade dozens of them for the meatloaf sandwich at my favorite Greek diner.
I recall being amazed with every single dish that was served. The explosion of flavors, the originality of each dish, the intricate plating. It was like being able to taste "art". Sure the service was great but that's not the highlight. The highlight is in the details. And I love how after you're done with everything, they give you a little something to take home to complete the experience. They gave us a little lemon sponge cake made fresh with a little card.
It was definitely worth the $400 I paid for my wife and I. Sure, it's not something you eat everyday, but it's definitely you yearn for everyday. Since then I've been looking forward to anniversaries and birthdays; because that's a time I get to spend on fine dining.
A word of caution though: Not every fine dining experience was a hit. I went to one at Raffles Hotel and that was totally unmemorable; even though it was highly rated.
Best sushi meal I've had, far and away, was in a place in near the old Tsukiji market in Tokyo. Seating for maybe 12 in the whole place, but plate after plate of single or double bites. But that one wasn't cheap - the author's 150 British pound wouldn't have covered the bill even a decade and a half ago when I ate there.
You're not paying for the food you receive per se, you're paying for the room, all the staff buzzing around to provide you with the experience, all the cooks required to give you 10 courses of something interesting and well-made, etc... It's a cultural experience. And the culture you're experiencing ranges from very old cuisine to very new cuisine, local culture to something very foreign, etc...
Also for anyone who thinks they're not 'fancy' enough to enjoy it, consider that cooks, chefs and servers are pretty much the definition of 'working class'. And the food is (usually anyway) delicious and interesting.
My wife and I had a lovely time at each place.
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I hate the idea that fine dining is only for the immoral rich who are happy to conspicuously consume their way through an overpriced meal.
A great meal can be as eminently rewarding as any great sensory experience and equally worth the price.
If you don't see anything wrong with buying a hotel room to hear a concert from a favorite band in a distant city, or buying a plane ticket to fly somewhere with an incredible view, then there's equally nothing wrong with every now and then splurging on an amazing meal.
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Although Michelin Stars only go to 3 stars
The Michelin guide for an area (which includes non-Michelin starred restaurants) goes to 5 stars? Or does she mean that the city of Birmingham has a total of 5 Michelin stars in the whole city, of which the restaurant she went to had procured 2 of those stars, leaving 3 stars to be split between one or two other restuarants.
Restaurants that are expensive-ish but not sublime or memorable experiences can be skipped. Eat cheaply or really expensively. Skip “quite expensive but not fantastic” restaurants. Tasting menus at one star restaurants is where the value is.
You may not remember the food, but you'll always have the memory and all the events and experiences that led up to that time. Years later you can shake that mental snow globe and get a happy nostalgia trip. That's worth the money to me.
I haven't dined in Michelin star restaurants, but a handful of very, very good ones for special occasions with my wife. The experience has been exactly as the the writer of that article had, every time. Great food is magical.
With (say) 7 dishes you'd have 5-7 small glasses of wine, each selected from the restaurant's cellar by a sommelier who knows what would go perfectly with each dish. This is a much better option than getting your own drink or a bottle to share with the table, and the experience of pairing amazing food with just the right drink is on another level.
It averages about 150 per person, but often there can be as many as 10 courses.
If one thought about how much each individual course cost, about 10 bucks on average, it is already a good deal (some dishes are caviar, foie gras, lobster…). Add to that you’re sitting there spending a nice 3 hours with someone special and enjoying a story told through the taste buds.
Most of the times it is worth the money.