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> potential

That's the keyword here. It looks dangerous to some, but evidently, no one's hurt yet, driver or pedestrain. And we're talking 60K people with FSD Beta as of Jan (perhaps getting close to 100K around now). At 100K, and average 1000 miles, over 3-6month period, you have 100 million miles driven without a single injury let alone fatality. US average is 1.1 death per 100 million miles. If you don't look at these numbers and just go with the news, it sounds like Teslas are running over people GTA style.

> Why is it out there to begin with?

Because that turns out to be the only way so far to massively train the AIs to move this tech forward. If you think Waymo or any other self driving companies out there are gonna get anywhere with the amount of data they have, you need to get in the weeds a little and see what's what.

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Yeah I get that it's one of those things where the only way to truly test it is "in the production environment," but Tesla must understand that _everybody_ is participating in those beta tests, not just the enrolled drivers. So long as that car is near me, I'm a participant too. Bu the way, Teslas are getting more common in Israel, and though I have no idea if FSD is even available here, I've noticed that whenever I see a Tesla in the mirror, I try to get as far away as possible from it, because there's a much higher than normal chance the driver isn't paying any attention. But I digress.

The things is that, looking from the side, it doesn't really seem like Tesla is interested in any feedback, judging by their reactions to what could only be described as healthy discussions. If they're getting a lot of flak, it's because they've earned it.

> If they're getting a lot of flak, it's because they've earned it.

I guess so, but I think in a different way. Only if they talked more about how much attention they pay to safety of people when they roll out beta to more users and add features, then perhaps the general public would be more understanding. I know about it from obscure tweets and fleeting mentions having watched countless hours of Tesla people talking about FSD, but you really have to dig to hear about it.