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by maxutility·4y ago·view on hn ↗
I mentioned this in the iPadOS thread, but it bears repeating here:

Of all the features mentioned, the one feature that I’m really excited for is the ability to mark text messages as unread.

On the other hand, did it really have to take 15 years to get here?

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Long are the feature backlogs.

It took till 2009 to add copy and paste in iOS.

I keep hoping for cross platform iMessage, but know the privacy value will unlikely ever win over the user semi-lock-in argument at Apple.

I agree wholeheartedly, but I still want more: let us create actually todos(ie Reminders) from messages with a gesture. That todo record has a deep link to back to the message, and the message has a todo status icon. Magic.

I hope I don’t have to wait 15 years for that, but I will keep talking about it until it does come.

Such a simple feature would have saved me a lot of turmoil over the years. I've been bitched out by friends, family and co-workers over forgotten texts many times. Lack of mark-as-unread really screwed up my ability to communicate with people for a while. I had to ween myself off relying on it as a todo indicator.
I can't think of any use cases for this, could you share? You mean once you get the message and you open it, it gets read (and sender sees that status), but you'd like to mark it as unread again? Why?
You've never read a message with the intention of responding at a later time? I do and if I don't flag it somehow (unread) I will easily forget about it.
Ah, for email, I use flags to mark them that I need to respond. I treat "Read" literally – that means I've seen it. Thanks for the explanation.
My Samsung phone allows the message to be sent to reminder. Iphones don't have something like that?
Then what's the point of having read receipts? Just have them wait until you send them a message
It’s not for the receiver to keep them from knowing you read it, it’s to build a queue of messages you want to reply to (anything unread will be easily marked in the UI for later revisiting next time you get a text or open the app). In this case, marking it unread wouldn’t need to affect the read receipt in any way. Really the unread feature is an ad hoc reply reminder flag.
Ooooh I see. Thanks for the clarification
For the same reason this exists in email.
I like the Archive pattern better. Unread keeps it semantic value as showing you something new arrived, but you're not done with it before you have archived the mail/conversation and it's out of your view.

I think they called it Inbox Zero back in the days when it was all the hype.

But it's not the same paradigm - different message mediums have different communication expectations. And one of the differences between email and texting is that the group of texting people is smaller and more frequent. Therefore it's more efficient to not use the archive pattern for texts. You want the list of people you've messaged to just be there (and not abstracted by a commonly contacted list) easily accessible for continuing the conversation with the history too.
It depends on communication habits too, I suppose.

I only open Messages whenever somebody wrote me (which would automatically un-archive the thread).

Telegram supports archiving, and I use it all the time there.