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by itvision·4y ago·view on hn ↗
To fuck with karma, I'll tell you what, this is the wrong story, the wrong conclusions, the wrong pretty much everything with our society.

In most cultures people are raised such a way, the naked body is something "forbidden", "bad", "immoral", "shameful", etc.

That's only part of the issue.

Another part of the issue is that in terms of having sex women have an ultimate monopoly - especially in the Instagram era they've taken the position that if you're born a female you can ultimately get the right to "sell" access to your body to the highest bidder. Nothing needs to be done to claim that, just being born the right sex.

These two things lead to the conclusion that nude pictures/videos first of all, are for sale, second, can cause a lot of drama and moral pain, and as a result can be used for blackmail.

If we had a society where the naked body was not something immoral, where sexes were truly equal (aside from strength and mass) and people were equally worthy of one another, there would be no such issue.

There's no shame in being naked. There's no shame in being seen this way.

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I know plenty of male onlyfans/patreon accounts who would disagree with the "ultimate monopoly" statement.
objective morality is real and it comes from the Bible
There is no shame in your naked body. Is there shame in a 18 year old participating in a 10 person gangbang? Is there shame in sex between step-siblings or step-parents? Is there shame in anonymous unprotected sex with multiple strangers? Is there shame in a Black woman having oral sex until she vomits into a dog bowl for a “Ghetto Gaggers” scene? How about rough anal sex until the bottom “prolapses”?

I apologize for being graphic, but I’m making a point. Those extreme examples are much more prevalent on these sites than someone who is just embracing their own naked body.

These all seem subjective. Why should it be up to one person to decide what another should be ashamed of?
It’s not that I think people should be ashamed of those things if they do it with consenting adults in private, it’s when it’s broadcast and easily available that it becomes something shameful IMHO. I’m not advocating for the banning of so-called kinks, just the easy access to (and I suppose the normalization/mainstreaming of) those kinks.

When a 12 year old can access any of these extreme sex videos easier than they access a NYTimes article, then something has to change.

Why can't consenting adults broadcast their own private activities? Why is it their responsibility to parent the world's 12 year olds?
It's relatively new that it isn't; wasn't culture pre-1970 or so arranged with kids in mind?
There’s only shame in these acts if you put it there. There’s nothing inherently shameful about humans enjoying their sexuality. Shaming others for something you find uncomfortable? Now that’s inherently shameful.
Plus a million.