Keith Davis was protecting the oceans, then he disappeared

I’ll never understand how passionately people will argue for a society without any form of civic justice, just because they’re angry about something they read on the internet.

Just lock random people up without due process! That’ll teach them!

You could stop eating tuna today. For good measure, other fish too. Consumers are part of this story and have choices to make.

>"I'd propose in any subsequent event of a missing observer captain does time, ship seized, company closed and that's done even before police starting asking questions."

I have better idea. Imprison POTUS or whomever else goes for a similar role in other countries. After all they're the ones ultimately responsible. And do it for any injustice that has lead to a death/s or anything stronger then mere inconvenience.

Perhaps live streaming mics and cams designed to be affixed inside quarters and to one's person. Local relays designed to be hidden to facilitate both buffering and redundancy in cases of transmission difficulties due to inclement weather or tampering. The whole thing could be issued as a standard kit for a few thousand dollars.

Maybe add some picture booklets for the crew explaining how fucked they are if they try anything, and include a copy of Captain Phillips for good measure.

Of course, such a scheme would just increase the need for observers to have their own tamper-proof food and water rations as well. At that point, industrial "accidents" are about the only thing remaining.

Bad I would imagine. Not only can the watchman be killed, but also slavery as well. https://thecounter.org/new-technology-helping-identify-human...

Yep, I work for and there are several companies working on this problem. I specifically work for a company creating USVs to fight the issue on the water but there are others working on solutions from the air and space.

It isn't possible, you're talking about hundreds of countries, across international waters, and some level of complicity from various authorities. Technology can only help when it has cooperation. The human factor is often the hardest part of technology solutions.

This could be easily scanned by satellites, although I have no idea what's more cost-effective.

It takes a long time to bring back those lines and to load up the catch.

Time to pass a law to force simplydt to wear a stiff leather collar that administers a painful electric shock every 30 seconds. Of course, although possible, this won't happen any time soon.

> The men left their impoverished homes years ago full of hope and headed to neighboring Thailand, promising to send money back from good-paying jobs. Instead, they were tricked, sold or even kidnapped and put onto boats that became floating prisons. They then were trafficked thousands of miles away to the isolated Indonesian island village of Benjina, where the AP first found hundreds of captive fishermen, including some locked in a cage simply because they asked to go home. They were beaten and routinely forced to work up to 22 hours a day. The unluckiest ones ended up in the sea or buried in a company graveyard under fake names — their bodies will likely never be recovered.

> The AP story prompted the Indonesian government to initiate a rescue. It also traced fish tainted by forced labor back to the supply chains of many major U.S. companies and pet food brands, including Wal-Mart, Sysco, Kroger, Fancy Feast and Iams.

> Once, after coming ashore, Prasert asked his captain for more money. As punishment, he says he was tossed into a tiny, muggy cell with about 20 other men.

> Myint’s freshly shaved head reveals two large scars he received during his years in Indonesia. One is from a motorbike helmet, the other from an iron rod — both blows from angry fishing captains.

> The memories are still raw of Myint collapsing into his wailing mother’s arms on the same dusty road just feet away from where they sit now in southern Myanmar. That day was tinged with both joy and sorrow for all the time lost — ending 22 years of separation after Myint was taken to Indonesia and nearly beaten to death by a captain who refused to let him go home.

Not trying to normalize, just adding to the horror: Slavery is huge in South East Asia for all kinds of industries.

In Cambodia it's well known that people from neighboring countries (especially Vietnam and Philippines) are lured in with promises of good jobs and then have their passports taken and aren't allowed to leave. It's like a combination of slavery and ransom. Or worse up to and including organ harvesting.

I’m a lifelong vegetarian, I think many crop industries might have similar abuse? What is it about meat/fish that makes it more prone to abuse?

I used to live in a lobster/crab fishing town near the Atlantic.

Crab fishermen would meet First Nations people halfway to sell them the crabs that were over quota at a cheaper price since they don't have a quota, and they would sell it bootleg at the reserves.

We used to go down and buy 12 lobsters for $40 when I was a kid (20 years ago). It was the best deal ever.

When I left town, the fishermen started attacking First Nations boat because they realized they(FN) could just do it themselves and just cry colonizer oppression if they got caught. Crab supply got extremely scarce and the gov started cutting down licenses and lowering quotas. Many fishermen lost their 1-2M/y for 3 month of work businesses. There's still violence to this day, some FNs and some fishermen get killed every once in a while, and boats get burned.

Yeah, looking that way. Biggest contributor to plastic in the ocean, directly killing it too.

There's no sustainable amount of large scale commercial fishing. Quotas are a joke. Labels are a joke.

It's already slowing going away anyway, being replaced by fish farms: https://ourworldindata.org/rise-of-aquaculture

I can't seem to find any source with data past 2015.

Aquaculture is already cheaper than wild caught. In stores (judging by labels) wild caught is already becoming marketed as a "premium" product, with prices to match, which will reduce demand.

Oceans have been terribly overfished, but people need to eat. Many poorer countries rely on fishing to help then feed their populations. Banning commercial fishing would be like banning commercial chicken. A huge loss of a major cheap source of protein, and nothing to replace it with.

Banning is just setting a quota of zero, which you've already agreed is effectively unenforceable.

Obviously control has to be on the demand and not the supply side. Banning the sale of fish, or punitively taxing it, would be two options to make commercial fishing economically unattractive.

Are you going to go to war with the Chinese Communist Party to stop them from fishing world seas?