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by jasonpeacock·3y ago·view on hn ↗
It's not. What you eat is just as important as how much you eat.

The body is complex, self-regulating system with hystersis and set points. You should go learn about "metabolic syndrome".

And everyone's body reacts differently, so there's no one solution.

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>And everyone's body reacts differently, so there's no one solution.

Absolutely disagree. F = G(m1)(m2)/(r^2). It's that simple, it's physics. Reduce m1 and your F goes down, same for everybody on the planet.

But how do you reduce m1 without reducing r? TFA (correctly) points out that many attempts to reduce m1 will also reduce r, which can be counterproductive.
hollow earth - just find a way to eject the convenient liquid layer inside the earth elsewhere
Sure, there are ways around it, but someone who is only given the "CICO" advice is likely to run afowl of r naturally being correlated to m1.
Sure. And our stomachs aren't bomb calorimeters.
Literally not sure what a stomach has to do with any of this.
CICO often makes the assumption that we metabolize food in the same way that a bomb calorimeter burns it. Calorie numbers on labels refers to the latter.
It's not physics, it's biology. There are processes that adjust and compensate to changes in the body and diet.

For example, if my BMR is 3600cal, and I don't eat for a day, why am I not 1lb lighter?

Or if I fast for 5 days, why am I 13lbs lighter and not 5lbs lighter?

Why is it easier for obese people to lose weight initially, but then harder to lose that last 10lbs? Which is also true for non-obese people.

You're not seeing the bigger picture. If we pull our work together, we can all collectively lose significant weight, and all it would take is a few measly kilometers of the earth's crust being thrown off into space - this is what this thread is all about!

Discussing fat loss is really short sighted when ejecting a little bit of mass could help the entire population lose some weight forever.

What's hilarious is that jasonpeacock didn't just avoid reading the article, but it's clear that he also avoided reading the very comment he replied to.

It's like people just want to get outraged over nothing.

And not once, but twice!

Even though it's a lot of fun, it's honestly a bit eye opening to see how little some people engage with the substance of the comments they are replying to...

ok, jokes on me :) I did the read the article (and have bought both books).

but I've seen so much garbage about CICO that I took the response seriously..

To be clear I agree with you. I find “CICO” a totally dissatisfying explanation of obesity, not because I don’t think it’s true, but rather because I think it fails to provide any insight that’s actionable from a public health perspective.
Yes, I've been there once or twice myself, no judgment on you personally! The amount of people responding this way was a bit surprising though. I will note that I completely share your feelings about the boring version of CICO.
Go back and read the original response again. It doesn't say anything about calories out.