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rock n' roll was all about having a questionable moral record...

it wasn't about people going to hear Mother Teresa singing

I know this is a derailment, but

> "[Mother Teresa] was not a friend of the poor. She was a friend of poverty. She said that suffering was a gift from God. She spent her life opposing the only known cure for poverty, which is the empowerment of women and the emancipation of them from a livestock version of compulsory reproduction." -Christopher Hitchens [0]

> In 2013, in a comprehensive review[8] covering 96% of the literature on Mother Teresa, a group of Université de Montréal academics reinforced [criticism of medical care], detailing, among other issues, the missionary's practice of "caring for the sick by glorifying their suffering instead of relieving it, ... her questionable political contacts, her suspicious management of the enormous sums of money she received, and her overly dogmatic views regarding, in particular, abortion, contraception, and divorce". Questioning the Vatican's motivations for ignoring the mass of criticism, the study concluded that Mother Teresa's "hallowed image – which does not stand up to analysis of the facts – was constructed, and that her beatification was orchestrated by an effective media relations campaign" engineered by BBC journalist Malcolm Muggeridge, who shared her anti-abortion views. [1]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Teresa#Criticism

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Mother_Teresa#Qua...

I do miss Christopher Hitchens. He could have written a hit piece on anyone in the world. He later did one on Henry Kissinger, but not until he got Mother Teresa out of the way first.
Kissenger isn't a hard target for a hit piece. Hell, a well-travelled cook called Tony could do it:

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/1175241-once-you-ve-been-to...

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/06/anthony-bourdain...

That time she opened for the Von Trapps was amazeballs though. And I do not believe the rumors about MT trashing her room because they misplaced her rosary beads.
It was right there in the contract... no brown rosary beads!
My setup was moderately good but your payoff was infinitely better. O, that I had more than one upvote to give
Me too. That was awesome.
If by questionable you mean hedonism, hell yeah, I'm right there with ya. If you mean "marrying" 13 year olds and possibly murdering your wives... we've got beef.
Didn't that use to be somewhat common, at least in some parts of the US both to marry your cousin and the age?

Edgar Allen Poe married his 13-year old cousin when he was in his mid-20s, and no one seemed to bat an eye. Of course, that was in 1836 and not 1957.

Lewis' first marriage was when he was 16.

I guess he came from an old-fashioned background?

The fact that he was essentially "cancelled" by the mainstream for doing it suggests it was not in fact normal at the time.

In case anyone gets confused, his first marriage was not to a 13 year old. His "marriage" to his 13 year old cousin happened when he was 22.

> The fact that he was essentially "cancelled" by the mainstream for doing it suggests it was not in fact normal at the time.

Good thing I never said anything of the sort.

“Didn't that use to be somewhat common”

Oh sorry I used the word “normal” and you used the word “common” it’s true those are totally different - i was way off base there

> no one seemed to bat an eye.

Predating eye bats is Marie of Brittany's late 14th century marriage.[1] In 1937, Eunice Winstead (aged 9) married Charlie Johns, but it was noticed. Life Magazine did a story on it, "The Case of the Child Bride."[2] In 1971, at least one of two Florida judges would grant a marriage license for a pregnant 11yo bride and rape victim (which goes without saying).[3]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_of_Brittany,_Lady_of_La_...

[2] https://yesterdaysprint.tumblr.com/post/143251401189/life-ma...

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherry_Johnson

That was commonplace back in those days, especially where they lived, and in many parts of US and Europe.

What is more problematic wasn't the marrying to a 22 year old where both agreed to and loved each other, but much older people just sleeping with girls of same or close age (which, in rock, includes Led Zeppelin, The Beatles (yes, those), the Stones, and others), or arranged marriages of similar girls to 40 or 50 year old "respected" rich persons (also a common thing for poor families to ease their burden of supporting many childs and/or get some dowry and connections)

> where both agreed to and loved each other

I don't know how this is controversial, but I don't think 13 year olds are emotionally and intellectually mature enough to know if they love someone enough to marry them, especially considered that their statements can very easily be pressured by family members who quite literally would still have legal authority over them at the time because they're minors.

Today not. Heck, today even 20 years olds are not emotionally and intellectually mature enough for most things (including marriage and love).

Back in the day perhaps was different, as people aged faster. Now, for example, the common person marries somewhere around 30 (and many even later). Back then you could very commonly be married with the first kid on the way (or ready) at 18-20, and that's for both men and women.

The biological rate of maturation of the human brain hasn't changed appreciably in the past 200 years. People were given a full range of adult responsibilities at a young age in the past, but that doesn't change the reality that a 22 year old and a 13 year old have a VERY serious power imbalance based on their brain's maturation thus far.
If you believe a 13 year old can consent to marriage, a LIFE LONG commitment at that time, why would consenting to a one night stand be worse? I think you might need to re-think your priorities on this one.
was her side of the story recorded at the time? what did her parents say? i am morbidly curious at this point how it happened
She co-wrote the book Great Balls of Fire: The Uncensored Story of Jerry Lee Lewis (1982).
I mean, 13-year olds are actual children, so I don't know what "her side of the story" at the time would be. 7th graders don't typically have a great grasp on capturing narrative, or you know, basic geometry.
Well, she didn't remain that forever. When she grew older she did publish a book with her side, and it's the one the movie was based on too.