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I knew that Zeihan would pop up before opening the article. Since the start of the 2022 Russian invasion, I've seen him and similar analysts rise in fame and it doesn't sit well with me.

It isn't the Stratfor origin, or the blazenly pro-American optimism per se that concern me. It is that these analyses feel like oversimplifications, to not say dumbing-downs -- talks of geographic predestinations. And they are taking some center stages in lobby circles.

I fear that they [these types of analyses], however enticing and conforting to a Western ear they may be, might obfuscate realities. Them monopolizing the ears of politicians and business leaders alike can only bite us back.

It's geopolitics for the masses or geopolitics for people who don't understand geopolitics and foreign powers. Of course it's extremely simplified but there isn't any indication that people with actual power listen to this.

Also not that what he says is even fundamentally wrong. He's a political commentator like any other, only his focus is global politics while the majority of political commentators work on national news. And his audience is mainly random Twitter accounts anyway.

There isn't an issue with people saying their opinion, that's called free speech. The problem is more that we live in an increasingly globalized world where nevertheless the average person has no idea about how socities outside of their bubble work. That isn't Zeihan's fault, if anything he helps getting people to think about these issues, however provocative or crude his takes may be. The issue lies with those people and groups that want to keep the populace dumb, that want them to look at the past instead of the present and future. Those who do not want you to travel and experience other cultures and political systems for yourself. Those who want the average person to regress to a state where they know nothing about what goes on in other parts of the world - all in their little bubble and isolated as commoners used to be. There are elites working towards this not just in authoritarian states but in democracies too.

I had an instant in a Zeihan lecture where I became convinced of the same thing. He was talking about millennials, and said that the primary millennial piece of fiction is Harry Potter. As a millennial, I had to nod along, that's a true and insightful thing to say about us. Then he described the titular character as, essentially, a special snowflake that doesn't have to work for anything or figure anything out.

Which is just an incredibly bad take. Yes, Harry is a magical character that can do whatever he wants but with a handful of exceptions, so can everyone else in the setting. Harry isn't the protagonist because he can do whatever he wants, he's the protagonist because doing the right thing is scary and he does it anyway. This isn't a take requiring a college level course, that theme is repeated over and over throughout the series, Zeihan's analysis of Harry Potter would only be convincing to someone with the most cursory familiarity with the work. And it's not the kind of bad take one arrives at by skimming the work and not thinking hard enough about it. The likeliest way I see someone coming up with that take is already holding an animosity towards millennials and then coming up with a smart-sounding justification for it.

And if that's Zeihan's understanding of Harry Potter, I can only assume his understanding of the CCP's thirty-year plan is comparable.

Zeihan makes some extremely basic factual errors in his recent book The End of the World is Just the Beginning - the kind that make me distrust everything he says on the topics I lack the knowledge to fact-check.

I wrote a longer review of the book here in the unlikely event that anyone gives a shit: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/4994497141?book_show_a...

> Then he described the titular character as, essentially, a special snowflake that doesn't have to work for anything or figure anything out.

Harry literally has a scar marking him as the chosen one, abused by muggle caretakers and unjustly persecuted by his teachers only to triumph over unspeakable evil via hereditary magical powers..

> And if that's Zeihan's understanding of Harry Potter, I can only assume his understanding of the CCP's thirty-year plan is comparable.

Hell heath no fury like a fandom scorned.

> It isn't the Stratfor origin, or the blazenly pro-American optimism per se that concern me

Are you sure about that?

Because all you've written is that Zeihan, who focuses on practical and immediate concerns of demographics, energy and agricultural markets - is obfuscating realities and monopolizing ears.

Eh? As opposed to what or whom?

Here is a three minute snippet from one of his talks from five years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkuhWA9GdCo

What brilliant insights are being crowded out? What specifically is he wrong about?

I somewhat answered your points with my two other answers in the thread, if you want to look them up first. I've also seen the video in the past. I've known Zeihan since 2016-2017(?) when Caspian Report started citing him.

Trying not to repeat myself, I will go with an example.

Intersperced with what looks like sound analysis, Zeihan often injects his own biases and hopes for a better, American, future. One telling example is his treatment of China -- about to collapse in a decade, and has been for the past seven years for Zeihan. I will wait. Same with some of his figures. He often repeats that Chinese demographic figures are overstated by a hundred millions (most likely girls), says him. It may not be a rabbit out of a hat, but it is unsourced or badly sourced or simply his opinion depending on the day. The excuse here is that the Chinese government is unreliable. Definitely. But it does not warrant such geopolical hand-slamming-the-table assertions. This is why, when it's being broadcast up to the highest echelons of the US government, I am not very happy with Zeihan and people who derive their geopolitical opinions mostly from him.

What about the things Zeihan said five years ago that don't stand out as noteworthy today? His book The Accidental Superpower has an entire chapter arguing that the province of Alberta is likely to secede from Canada and join the US, which hasn't happened yet. Just because some of your predictions come true, that doesn't mean you have a crystal ball.
On the contrary, I'm surprised that geography and climate took so long to take center-stage in understanding and analyzing our world. The previous ignorance of something as fundamental as where we live and what climate we live in seems hubristic, if nothing else.

Land and climate shape our access to food, shelter, clothing, and security. Food, shelter, clothing, security shape everything else.

I disagree. These lines of reasoning have always been there. Logistic thinking, and thus geopolitics, has always [i.e. for at least the past century] taken terrain and climate into account.

Selling the old as new is a basic marketing ploy. And geopolitics isn't immune to this. Clausewitz talked about logistics and terrain, Sir Lawrence Freedman has too, W. Gardner did, Robert E. Pape too (in the optic of air power).

> It isn't the Stratfor origin

Is there something wrong with Stratfor’s analyses? Are there better intelligence outfits? I have long been disappointed at news organizations and their focus on advertisers over the needs of subscribers/readers. Are there useful paid intelligence services?

CSIS on YouTube is okay-ish, atlantist so to take with some grain of salt sometimes.

Personally, I liked the podcast of the Chair of War Studies at King's College: https://www.kcl.ac.uk/warstudies/war-studies-podcast (note: I've not listened to any potentially new episode for the past 2-3 years).

I don't like geographical determinism. Yes, geography is important. No it is not the sole determining factor.

It is very good at confirming pretty much anything but is awful at predicting future events. Pseudo-scientific tosh akin to Freud.

I can't think of any nation state that was able to surmount its geography on a long-enough timeline.
The US is the exception that confirms the rule, but mainly because it managed to basically conquer/occupy a continent-size territory, from ocean to ocean.

Russia did try the same thing, that's why they managed to reach the Pacific pretty early on, comparatively speaking, i.e. in the late 1600s - early 1700s. It was on the Western side and partially on the Southern side where that wasn't achievable.

Late in her life Catherine II (or people close to her, anyway) did dream about having 6 Russian capitals scattered around the Euroasian continent, including in Berlin and Vienna, but that was not achievable (and still isn't, I'd say). Stalin immediately post-WW2 came pretty close to it, though. On the Southern side there were the issues with the Caucasus, Iran/Persia and present-day Afghanistan, which had conflicting results and outcomes for Russia/USSR.

Main stream writing on the topic is motivated to focus on the GEO in geopolitics, because talking about geographic features and demographic pyramids is cleaner than wading into politics, especially when intermingled regional foreign politics. But the POLITCS does a lot of heavy lifting, whereby politics influence things like tech innovation/adoption that can tame geography, i.e. restitive frontier regions being incorporated by rail infra, mass public works or inventions like AC/desalination make improving previously inhospital/unpassable geography. Or in defense, gunpowder/mechanization mitigated overwhelming advantage of static geo based defense, and similarly going forward, long range precision strikes (conventional ICBMs / advanced rocketry) will reduce all global favourable geo conditions to extreme vunerability. How will US preeminence fare if she has no impenetrable homeland to operate from etc.
I think the point was that you can't ignore it, not that it doesn't matter. Clickbaity title for sure.
Title refers to the book "Prisoners of Geography", which I think is a good title for a layman popular geography book.
Why Russia is invading Ukraine, RealLifeLore, YouTube, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33019630

I thought this video explained exceptionally well. Also includes analysis of oil-and-gas as a contributing factor.

I posted it a few weeks ago. It was published before the start of the war.

Sam Harris in his Making Sense podcast interviewed Timothy Snyder [1] about this topic, they had a decent dive into the history, relationship between the countries and meaning of the war for both sides.

1. https://www.samharris.org/podcasts/making-sense-episodes/301... the interview starts at about 13:30.

If it is flatlands you need to invade? I don’t buy it.
I don't buy the "flatlands to the west" either. I'd sooner buy they want some more coastline with warm water. I imagine Canadians on average will be less pleasant if they're stuck with a hostile U.S. to the south.
As inhabitant of the Netherlands, I certainly don't either...
It is interesting that changing military capacities have changed the impact of geography on politics and war.

What really gets me are some of the things that have not changed. Resources make nations weak. Interconnection with other nations in trade, research, and development makes nations strong. Now more than ever Russia has the potential to leverage its lack of resources and connections with European and Asian countries to become the kind of major global power that it wants to be. But the only way to do that is to give up on old ideas about geography, power, and wealth.

Visiting this link gave me a consistent "Gah. Your tab just crashed." in Firefox (tried 3 times). And it seems to be happening more often lately. Is this just me?
Firefox Android seems to often crash on the Guardian for me and I have not been able to work out why or find anyone else talking about it.
I have this exact problem. I think there is some sort of memory consumption problem and the Android version of the oomkiller jumps in

Only see this on the guardian and only on mobile

In general, or just on the Guardian? Anyway, doesn't happen here on FF 107 und Linux with µBo. With always fresh cookies.
(Works for me on firefox, windows 10. Although Firefox is ridiculously unstable for me in general)
> Last year, Russia was at peace and enmeshed in a complex global economy. Would it really sever trade ties – and threaten nuclear war – just to expand its already vast territory?

Er, no? This article too chooses to turn a blind eye to Russia occupying Crimea and supporting the separatists in Donbass well before last year, just because the West failed to react appropriately at that time. Which of course emboldened Putin to go all in and try to occupy all of Ukraine.

> occupying Crimea > the West failed to react appropriately at that time

As someone born in Crimea I always failed to understand why it’s the West’s business.

Because the occupation of Crimea gave Russia the idea that an invasion and war in Ukraine would fail to cause a significant reaction, and the war in Ukraine has been highly disruptive.

Note that "react appropriately" doesn't necessarily mean "military support", just things like sanctions and reducing energetic dependence on Russia would have already signaled that more incursions wouldn't be well received.

Also, there's the part about military occupations being considered generally bad. We might want to care about that.

It's Europe's business when a European country launches a European war of conquest. See: WW2 for what can happen when you just ignore fascist wars of conquest.
I understand your sentiment. I think it would be more appropriate to say that “the world” should react, not “the West”.

And its world’s business if some country unilaterally declares other’s country part as theirs.

Although I think the world reacted appropriately. Non-trivial sanctions were imposed, almost no other country recognised the change.

Of course, Crimea issue is just another example of conflict of “territorial integrity“ vs “right to self determination” principles. World needs more formal rules.

(В любом случае, как мне кажется, справедливый референдум включал бы вариант «независимая Крымская Автономная Республика».)

> a blind eye to Russia occupying Crimea

The Russia military was "occupying Crimea" back when there were British redcoats occupying New York City. The Russian military has been there since that time. The only new development has been the US, UK, with some continental support, demanding the Russians leave in recent times and pouring financial and military supplies into the Ukraine to accomplish this.

Also if we want to go back to the 1700s, then Russia should hand Crimea over to Turkey, not the Ukraine, because Ottoman Turkey is who occupied Crimea before Russia.

Putin invaded Ukraine to secure his own rule (or rule of his clique). It has nothing to do with geopolitics - it is about staying in power.

After the Orange Revolution Ukraine started moving towards the West, approached European Union (lots of Ukrainians work in Poland and rest of EU) and started to fight with corruption.

This 'westernization' process started to slowly make Ukraine richer.

A rich Ukraine is an end of Putin's rule, because average Russians would realize that Russia could be a normal country too and they could be rich too, instead of living without toilets and being robbed by oligarchs. But in order to do that they would have to get rid of Putin and his clique.

So Putin tried to conquer Ukraine and when this failed, plan B is to ruin its economy.

This way Ukraine is as poor or poorer than Russia. This way Putin can secure his power.

> This 'westernization' process started to slowly make Ukraine richer.

I don’t think Ukraine reached even the pre-2014 prosperity levels by February 2022. You need to separate wishful thinking and hard data.

Thinking is good, but why "think" when you can just check the facts? Follow your own advice on hard data.
where is your hard data?
I agree, I also think the failed protests in Belarus were a driving factor. He could see what an uprising might look like and that time was limited.
Not necessarily correct. The reason of the invasion might be because of russian adherence to the heartland theory, creating defensive depth.

Might be Putin's megalomania, need for approval rating back home, maybe the oil prices rose and they took the opportunity, maybe to prevent Ukraine from joining the EU/NATO.

Could be a thousand and one differing things, or all of them at once.

What is correct? No one but Putin (and maybe not even him) knows.

Putin is the byproduct of Russia’s experience with the ‘Westernization’ process
Answer: no.
Seems like a classic rule of headlines: If the headline is a question, the answer is most likely "no". If the answer was "yes", the headline would be a click-baiting statement ("We Are Prisoners of Geography!").
It is: Betteridge’s Law of Headlines.

"Any headline that ends in a question mark can be answered by the word no."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge's_law_of_headline...

You can also rephrase anything to be a question. Or even a question that sounds silly, so that people say no.
There's also "No, we are not prisoners of geography".
We obviously are.

I have more in common with the punks in Poland than with the conservatives that vote with me here in my city.