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by lr0·2y ago·view on hn ↗
Israel bombing Gaza and targeting civilians for the last couple of decades led to deaths. Israel didn't and doesn't care.
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They care maasively about their own safety over the safety of terrorist-sympathizers.
Are you really too dense to see how this same logic could be applied to justify acts that kill Israeli civilians, whose government has been killing Palestinians for decades, encroaching on their land, etc? Of course, your flaw is not logical, it is moral; you merely indulge a desire to take any excuse to dehumanize the Palestinians, the same way many on the other side will not admit the moral reality that attacks that target civilians are not a legitimate form of armed struggle, but merely satisfy their base desire for revenge.

This latest flare-up of violence has really gotten me fed up with the partisans of this conflict in a way that hasn't happened before. Each side is acting like the latest reprisal against them came out of nowhere, and is trying to solicit everyone else's sympathy while blatantly denying the other side's moral worth and their own side's moral transgressions. You all deserve each other. Leave the rest of us out of it.

> Are you really too dense to

If we're into idiotic questions, here's mine: Are you really a cat lover?

"terrorist-sympathizers"? Is that how Zionists identify Palestinians now?
> "terrorist-sympathizers"? Is that how Zionists identify Palestinians now?

This is not a Palestinian issue. If it were, Israel would be bombing the West Bank as well.

Gazans voluntarily elected Hamas.[1] Hamas then refused to leave after getting involved in violent conflict with their political opponents, Fatah. Were Gazans ignorant of the ideology of the creature called Hamas when they handed them power?

People should stop equating jihadis with civilians. Keep doing this and the suspicion about Muslim civilians having jihadi tendencies gains wider acceptance.

This is Hamas vs Israel, not Palestine vs Israel.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governance_of_the_Gaza_Strip

You mean the hamas created and promoted by the Israeli government?[0]

> Instead of trying to curb Gaza's Islamists from the outset, says Mr. Cohen, Israel for years tolerated and, in some cases, encouraged them as a counterweight to the secular nationalists of the Palestine Liberation Organization and its dominant faction, Yasser Arafat's Fatah. Israel cooperated with a crippled, half-blind cleric named Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, even as he was laying the foundations for what would become Hamas. Sheikh Yassin continues to inspire militants today; during the recent war in Gaza, Hamas fighters confronted Israeli troops with "Yassins," primitive rocket-propelled grenades named in honor of the cleric. [1]

[0] https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-c... [1] http://web.archive.org/web/20090926212507/http://online.wsj....

> You mean the hamas created and promoted by the Israeli government?

Yes. Every power employs divide-and-rule as a policy to control their opponents. When their opponents fight each other, a lot of their resources would be too tied up to fight Israel.

The sooner the West realises that jihadis are not their allies and cannot be controlled, the better.

By the west here, you mean Israel?
> By the west here, you mean Israel?

And the US, which did very similar things when it funded Osama Bin Laden and the Mujahideen during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.