Gonna have to try this one ("Why do you even care/talk about this shit so much? What's the issue?")
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I am genuinely curious why you went from:
> "why do you even care about this?" or "why is this so important to you?"
to
> "Why do you even care/talk about this shit so much? What's the issue?"
I see it a lot online ; as a mean of emphasis I think but it doesn't sound better to me.
This:
> "why do you even care about this?" or "why is this so important to you?"
doesn't mean we stop the conversation, thinking about why the issue is important to us sometimes means we give a more pertinent/deep answer.
Some people just talk like that.
I would imagine that to OP the purpose of using the world 'shit' isn't condescending or to detract fro the importance of the topic, it's meant to be more personable, to directly engage the person you're talking with in a casual way.
I find that HN often penalizes users when they write the way that people often speak.
> Some people just talk like that.
Well, I can live with that but I don't think it extends to writings on forums, social networks, the internet at large. Of course it depends of the audience (as always) (pluss the medium is the message).
> I would imagine that to OP the purpose of using the world 'shit' isn't condescending or to detract fro the importance of the topic, it's meant to be more personable, to directly engage the person you're talking with in a casual way.
There's that. There's also the possibility of implying that any online discourse is shit (which is an opinion I can hear yet disagree with but ok).
> I find that HN often penalizes users when they write the way that people often speak.
Written and oral English aren't exactly the same language although they have a lot in common (at the very least the rules differ a bit). I'd venture to guess that sentence structures and overall discourse (I mean: the way they use the language to achieve communication, not the grammatical rules to form comprehensive sentences) of someone who swears still show differences between oral and written expression.
Anyway, I am guilty of downvoting comments with too much swear words (because it's noise to me and it's distracting from the topic at hand, either because I have to factor the wow factor into the arguments or to ignore it when it's just how people express themselves).
Funny thing that happened once: I added a "and... language please ?" in my reply to a comment with foul language and the counter reply was "what are you... a child ?". I left it at that but that's precisely because I am an adult that I don't want to discuss using too much swear words.. but I can see how the reverse could be valid for someone else.
In real life, I swear wayyyyyy too much.
Out of morbid curiosity, why do you arrive at the conclusion that the writing of a person should significantly depart from that of their regular speech patterns? I mean, to be candid, that actually is the case for me in a much different way that isn't relevant in this context and I don't care to discuss but you couldn't be more incorrect and inscrutably so with regard to this context.
If I'm being glib, I would say that's a sign of mental illness where there's not a code-switching economic/practical basis for doing so [hmm emoticon]
> Out of morbid curiosity, why do you arrive at the conclusion that the writing of a person should significantly depart from that of their regular speech patterns?
Here's a good start https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Written_language#Comparison_wi... then maybe Variation and Change in Spoken and Written Discourse https://benjamins.com/catalog/ds.21 There's a whole field dedicated to that in linguistics, feel free to turn it upside down.
> I mean, to be candid, that actually is the case for me in a much different way that isn't relevant in this context and I don't care to discuss but you couldn't be more incorrect and inscrutably so with regard to this context.
Huhu.
[not you but the person who obviously does this to that extent absent any external basis for doing so]
To me, swear words are like salt and pepper.
Some good meals (professional conversations) don't need them.
Basic meals (casual conversation) are almost always better with them.
Too much is bad for your heart, but they tend to improve the flavor of a discourse.
Sorry, genuine inquiry: what makes you the arbiter over what is and isnt dignified or appropos for a discussion of this calibre and on this medium?
The way you phrased it I don't think that's a genuine inquiry.
Can I refer back to your prior response and ask you to update us all regarding your current position in light of this bit?
You can.
It indeed is :) <-- See, I even smiled
not to strangers.
TBH I honestly don't get this entire line of inquiry. Are you fighting against slang or mordern internet culture, what and why is something unreasonably at issue here with entire disregard to the subtance rather than form of input?