Very convenient. There are random checks by the staff, one out of 20 times maybe.
The US is rapidly backsliding from a high to low trust society so things like this are simply not possible in many areas. A few trials like this ran near me and shut down months later.
Best thing since sliced bread IMHO, very quick and easy. Most stores have reduced cashier stands from eg. 10 to ~2.
Theft (things like putting unscanned $200 beef tenderloin roasts unscanned at the bottom of a bag) was so bad they canceled it within months. I miss it, it was super convenient.
They're now trialing camera-based machine vision cart attachments that are slow and annoying.
I find them mostly convenient. the only times I've every had a staff come over is when I've done the wrong thing and the machine needed staff assistance to progress or when the machine did the wrong thing and I needed the staff to progress.
It amuses me to read (and I see it a lot) people outraged that staff may come over and check what they're doing and not cheating the system somehow, outraged at the lack of trust being perceived.
Do they not remember the old checkout system was a complete lack of trust scenario. Every single item you want to buy was checked by staff.
The self checkout is a HUGE level of trust being given to the customer.
I’m all for self-checkout if it is limited to 12 items or less because it is significantly slower to scan and bag groceries yourself than to have two people who are trained at this.
The process is so slow that we drive an additional 15 minutes away just to avoid that grocery store.
I'm not sure why that is, but it isn't the fault of the self-checkout machines. They are smaller than normal checkouts, and they could have 20 of them and still need only one cashier on duty.
Where I live, when they replace normal checkouts with their conveyor belts, lolly stands and backing areas, they typically get 2 self service ones per normal one replaced.
The stations at my local Harris teeter are unable to handle the user quickly scanning+placing products in the bagging area. I imagine this has to do with how the software translates changes in the bagging-area weight to a count of items. When this happens you have to wait around for the system to decide you aren't, in-fact, stealing.
These same stations also prevent further item scanning once an age restricted item (e.g. alcohol) is scanned, forcing you the wait around for the attendant before you can continue with your items.
Contrasted to the self-checkout stations at my local food-lion, which have none of these issues, the lack of UX is frustrating.
To top off with some non-content: You'd really think more people would have learned how to reliably scan barcodes after observing others do it hundreds, if not thousands, of times.
And it's generally _fine_. I remember a lot of problems when they started showing up 20 years ago, but it's distant-memory stuff at this point. Bigger supermarkets also tend to have self-scan things that you bring around the aisles with you for big shops.
(One fun exception: a few years back all the grapefruits on offer were unusually small, I think due to adverse weather conditions in Spain. If you tried to buy grapefruits, the machine would become concerned that the grapefruits you'd put in your bag weren't as heavy as it expected, and required an employee to reassure it. There are presumably acceptable weight ranges for fruit, and the problem grapefruits just fell outside it...)
However in stores like Fry's/Kroger/Albertsons, it effectively treats me like a thief.
He said "I guess we do."
I wonder how they're going to get me to stock shelves and clean the restroom.
I've recently started using their service where you scan items with a portable scanner as you go around the shop, and bag them immediately. Checkout is even quicker because everything is already in my bags, and I can see a running total of how much I'm spending. Again, it just works.
What doesn't work is product location discovery. I get that they want me to wander around looking for the coffee or whatever that theyve relocated yet again, because they think I'll make more impulse purchases, but it still frustrates me.
Sounds like most of those issues are self-inflicted by cheaping out on all the hardware. Reliable scales, scanners, etc. aren't hard to figure out, if you bother paying enough for it.
In the half-decade or we've had self-checkouts in Austria, they've been mostly reliable – I've only ever had real trouble in the first six months of their deployment (teething issues), and in the first half of 2023, when producers were shrinkflating their packagings so often that the inventory databases couldn't keep up and scales were regularly expecting the wrong values. That seems to have quieted down again too, thankfully.
I can be in and out of the shop within a minute or 2-3, never needing to talk to a human.
The only disadvantage is that I can’t get my bottle deposits paid out using the app; I have to go to the till for that.
We would have been happy to wait in line for a traditional cashier but there were only self checkout lanes. And long lines for those too! We finally get to the front of the line, dutifully scan each item. Of course it’s impossible to track what’s scanned already since the area to place items is no larger than the one at the supermarket. Fat chance putting a shelf on that tiny area.
Anyway, the system decides that due to our purchase volume, we were selected for a “random rescan”. So we wait for someone to come over and it picks three items for the person to scan. Of course they screw it up, and the system now declares the entire order needs to be started from scratch.
How exactly did anyone save time or effort in this case? What a nightmare.
However I spent 3 years in London and self checkout dominates. The Sainsburys by my house had ~40 self checkout kiosks and only about 6 regular checkout lanes. I only used the checkout lane one time in multiple years (same at Waitrose and Tesco).
There are a few things that made it better:
1) Produce in these stores is rarely sold by weight. It’s more common to get produce in packaged quantities with a bar code. Much easier to scan. And generally the tech seems to just work, it rarely complained that I had missed an item when I hadn’t.
2) Fewer item purchase restrictions. Even alcohol was allowed at self checkout but you did have to flag someone down for that.
3) People do smaller shopping trips. Each person at an urban market in London is likely buying a basket of goods, not a whole cart. That makes the entire process much more streamlined and space efficient.
Another annoyance: after moving to California i’m fairly frustrated by the “No Alcohol in Self Checkout” rule. Buying a sandwich and a single bottle of wine? Good luck standing in line behind someone with a cart full of produce! Don’t really see what this law does except cause frustration. In states where it’s allowed you need an attendant to verify ID anyway, same as a regular line. Another stupid CA rule.
Cashiers have never been the ones tasked with bagging our groceries over here, so I guess it's not that big of a step to just scan and throw it in the bag after that.
Modern UX for the win!
* full service gas stations
* live in maids
* a mailman, milkman, iceman, and paperboy they knew the names (and birthdays!) of
Call it false nostalgia or what you will, but we lost the plot somehow on paying for dignity-as-a-service.
Sincerely, the "everything-is-worse" department
Don't blame other for machines that suck and/or your inability to follow instructions I guess
Even if self-checkout as it is implemented today doesn't work [1], that's not a reason to declare it a failed experiment. It's a reason to improve the technology. The only thing stopping us from having universal self-checkout is lack of quality in the hardware and software.
There is a separate conversation about what impact self-checkout has on jobs and food prices. It's an empirical question what the ratio of automated to human checkout should be in order to maximize throughput. Maximizing throughput means lower food prices for everyone. However, if it happens that maximizing throughput means letting go of tens of thousands of human workers, then that also has an impact on the economy. This is why we should have a robust social safety net in wealthy societies.
[1] I don't actually think this is the case. I use self-checkout multiple times per week at the grocery store, and I almost never have an issue. Maybe 1 in 10 visits I'll need assistance from staff, which takes less than a minute.