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by toddmorey·2y ago·view on hn ↗
Isn't it possible that both the frontend and backend are maturing & more capable? Isn't that what we want?

I've built some feature-rich FE apps that read and write to dbs & object stores with no servers needed! Very portable, the only install step is to upload a few files. They can be run right from a simple CDN. And they are super fast.

Most FE devs I know are actually familiar with Hotwire and friends but to them those stacks would add DX complexity. I think sometimes people say "complexity" when they just mean "unfamiliar". Both FE and BE can be way overly complex, but neither needs to be.

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> I think sometimes people say "complexity" when they just mean "unfamiliar".

I do mean actual complexity.

With something like Hotwire/Livewire you don't need APIs anymore. You also can scrap client-side fetch() code and state management. There are some features that will still need some client JS but these will be a minority of use cases (if at all).