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This argument did it for me.

> banning e2ee would render crime evem less efficient

Yeah, don't care if criminals use something that helps us all protect ourselves and reveal or be vulnerable only to disclose that which we CHOOSE. Like, the real choose, not Apple's "choose" what we want or you can't use everything

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Can't have it both ways

In case you're referring to the Apple thing—umm, ya they can. They have the NoDataCollected checkmark designation in the AppStore's Privacy Nutrition Labels. Anything they make is offefed/made 3rd party also and is therefore evidence they could have collected no data but consciously choose to design things in such a was that they are being disingenuous when they say they only collect the absolute minimum amount of data required for functionality

So you...agree...right?

No, you can't say you want encryption even if bad guys use it but then say crypto is bad because bad guys use it

That is nowhere near what I was saying, I'm saying that this is the quote that resonated most with me because it tries to take away yet another thing that protects us all, not just criminals, businesses, and criminal_businesses