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by schmorptron·1y ago·view on hn ↗
Yes, I feel like this hits the nail on the head. It's completely understandable that something had to be done. This might not be the ideal solution, but it's extremely good that it happened and is happening to stop women from being the under group.

If the alternative is doing nothing, this is definitely the preferable outcome.

The solution might be to transition into more programs that explicitly tell everyone they are welcome, but that is probably easier said than done.

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> The solution might be to transition into more programs that explicitly tell everyone they are welcome, but that is probably easier said than done.

Yeah I think this is part of the problem. Young boys have been given the message (implicitly, but also at times explicitly) that academic pursuits and achievement and learning are not for them. "Sorry you're a boy - this is not for you. Only girls get the support and encouragement and guidance and opportunities to achieve. Run a long and go play in the dirt or whatever it is boys do. You'll be fine on your own without any help."

We've raised a generation or two of men who have been taught to not strive or aim high, and we're reaping what we've sown in that regard, with what was noted in the article of economically inactive males.

I've definitely felt this. I don't know how much of this feeling is legitimate and how much is just me seeking excuses externally, but the sentiment you mentioned is definitely felt and demotivating. Still, this isn't the women's fault who are engaging with and benefiting from these programs, so the solution isn't to go bash them for it. (not that I think you implied that)

It's gotta be something different, uplifting. The most helpful sentiment might be "It's super cool that you're finally getting the opportunities that you deserved for years, and the support and coaching networks that have sprung up out of it are great. I'd like that as well."