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I feel like people will take the "UAP are real" comment completely out of context. They're only saying that "things exist that we can't (yet) explain", which we already knew to be the case. And if there were in fact footage from a short enough distance to see things clearly, then we'd already know what it is.

In other words, nobody (credible) is claiming that aliens or anything of the sort exist.

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Unfortunately some people in this comments section are implying precisely that.

And unfortunately, yet more people seem to not understand -- surprisingly, in a forum such as HN -- that "things exist that we cannot yet understand" is completely normal for science and it has been since humans engaged in science as a way of understanding more about the universe.

"We don't understand this sensor data yet" is completely normal for science, it's not some shameful failure that must be covered up, the sure evidence that our models about everything are crumbling and secret 3 letter agencies must become involved to make sure Western civilization doesn't collapse.

Geez.

> Unfortunately some people in this comments section are implying precisely that.

I do not see anyone, let alone multiple people, making that claim. Can you link to one?

Easy peasy!

Here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42160277

And you here, though disguised so you have the easy way out of claiming you were just hypthesizing: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42160930

Plus, if you are going to claim the two aren't conflated in general, i.e. that most conversations about UFOs are also about ETs, then I'll peg you for a dishonest person and will have nothing further to discuss with you.

I know you find it impossible to believe, but not everyone needs is as closed minded as that. I believe there is something going on worthy of the investigation. People like yourself inevitably jump to “lol you believe in aliens lol let me mock you”, when no such claim is or has been made.

And then you call them a liar.

So you can conflate all you like, and will, but that’s your problem. There is no evidence as to the source for UAPs, interplanetary or otherwise.

I do not know what is going on, and make zero claims that I do. The one and only claim I make is that something is going on, but what that exactly is is now.

You, on the other hand, can read minds.

That’s the more fantastical claim.