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What's crazy about the original story is that you can buy something on Amazon with your own credit card from a highly rated vendor and go to jail because the seller was involved in a criminal enterprise!!!

I know Amazon marketplace sells sketchy products, but I didn't know not doing my due diligence there could expose me to criminal liability.

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This is wrong.

Sure should be. But Krebs’ story on it is proof it can happen.

Story: https://krebsonsecurity.com/2024/01/canadian-man-stuck-in-tr...

HN discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39056733

That’s a shocking case.

Several layers of problem there, particularly that a “criminal record” doesn’t mean you’ve been found guilty, only charged, and that the stay on proceedings means an innocent person can never clear their name- allowing the Canadian police to sweep their faulty charges under the rug.

That seems highly unlikely - mens rea absolutely applies to fraud.

You might not get convicted, but it can still ruin your life:

https://krebsonsecurity.com/2024/01/canadian-man-stuck-in-tr...

Source?

Literally the post in the OP, which linked this post by Brian Krebs:

> A Canadian man who says he’s been falsely charged with orchestrating a complex e-commerce scam is seeking to clear his name. His case appears to involve “triangulation fraud,” which occurs when a consumer purchases something online — from a seller on Amazon or eBay, for example — but the seller doesn’t actually own the item for sale. Instead, the seller purchases the item from an online retailer using stolen payment card data. In this scam, the unwitting buyer pays the scammer and receives what they ordered, and very often the only party left to dispute the transaction is the owner of the stolen payment card.

https://krebsonsecurity.com/2024/01/canadian-man-stuck-in-tr...