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> has ignored it's developments to this extent

What have I ignored precisely?

Bugs? Regressions? Missing features? Lack of funding?

Xorg being deprecated, Wayland being all the rage while being usable only in Gnome and KDE?

> Many in this thread have also identified that MacOS and Windows are deficient in several of the criteria you listed.

Windows: 2 billion users with no technical background.

Linux: 40 million users most of whom are geeks.

End of story.

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The X.Org project is not deprecated. It handles both the X.Org X11 server and Wayland.

That said, Linux has more users than Windows:

https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/

Android Linux is at 46%, while Windows is at 26%. Other Linux versions have 1%.

Not a single Windows MacOS iOS Android user knows what their display server is and how it works.

Xorg is being deprecated and replaced with semi-broken something where tons of functions only work in KDE and Gnome. That's all you need to know about Linux.

You are calling the Xorg X11 server Xorg, which is wrong. As someone who has “contributed” to so many projects, you should know that. In any case, it is odd you are whining about this considering that the article’s author is a well known X11 hater and you seem to agree with everything he says.

By the way, “Not a single Windows MacOS iOS Android user knows what their display server is and how it works” is both a non-sequitur and untrue. The guys who wrote the display servers used on those are users of those systems.

> You are calling the Xorg X11 Xorg, which is wrong

Xorg has been the de-facto X11 implementation on Linux for the past 25 years.

First XFree86, then it was superseded by Xorg.

You're being nit picky only that's not a counter argument. That's ad hominem.

> the article’s author is a well known X11 hater and you seem to agree with everything he says.

I'm the author of the article and I'm not a hater. Understanding the limitations of something is not "hatred". I guess the entire world is black or white to you, either I have to be deeply in love with Linux or "You're a hater" which is another ad hominem.

See you've stopped arguing and now switched to discussing me personally. I knew it would happen given how you never had any counter arguments in the first place, the problem is I've been here for over 25 years and know Linux inside out and EVERYTHING that is "claimed" in the article is the common truth.

> By the way, “Not a single Windows MacOS iOS Android user knows what their display server is and how it works” is both a non-sequitur and untrue.

Yet another "counter argument" that lacks any validity because it's empty.

> The guys who wrote the display servers used on those are users of those systems.

This is an article about Linux _USERS_.

You still don't bloody understand that. I don't care about software engineers that can make anything work given enough time. I don't care who wrote Quartz or Surface Flinger. They are not end users.

End users use Operating Systems, buy them and buy software for them. Their developers are absolutely IRRELEVANT. There have been dozens of forgotten OSes that no one uses.

There is nothing “ad hominem” in what I said. I was discussing your remarks, rather than you. However, I will now discuss you. You exhibit severe deficits in logical reasoning skills. Some of your comments exhibit signs of disorganized thoughts, which are linked to schizophrenia.

To give an example, the sudden interjection of “Not a single Windows MacOS iOS Android user knows what their display server is and how it works.” appears to be an example of disorganized thinking, since its connection to what was being discussed is superficial to an extreme. There are other comments by you that exhibit signs of disorganized thinking even more clearly.

You likely could benefit from seeing a psychiatrist.