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by FinnLobsien·1y ago·view on hn ↗
I thought this cited criticism is interesting:

> Culdesac is a far cry from "the incremental urbanism and thickening our cities need. A dozen or even a thousand Culdesacs can’t solve that problem," because they would lack long-term growth benefits including "the resilience of a system where many hands have built the neighborhood and have a financial stake in it" and would reflect "a zoning and finance stream that favors industrial over incremental production."

It's interesting that one of the most walkable, lively and beautiful urban centers —Paris—was not built this way, but was the result of a big reform by Eugene Haussmann that flattened the "previous Paris" and put his new version on top, which was extremely centrally planned.

The idea of a community incrementally building their infrastructure together based on arising needs and desires is beautiful. But it's not practical in the 2020s where housing is much harder to build due to regulation, zoning etc.

Plus this "incremental" approach can go wrong as well. People forget that for the longest time, cities had higher mortality because they just grew organically and some of that wasn't actually great for humans.

The things we see have survived for a reason. Most cities have gotten rid of A LOT of things that grew "incrementally".

I think this incremental approach is a romantic idea and more is right than wrong about it. But it's also the 2020s where housing is crazy expensive and we have higher expectations of buildings and neighborhoods.

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Tokyo is an example of incrementalism making a beautiful resilient city, while still maintaining safety standards.
Tokyo burned to the ground 80 years ago and got to be rebuilt from scratch then.
Kind of orthogonal to the point. It isn't a planned city in the same way that Paris is a planned city.

Also, most of the worst parts of American development have happened since 1945.

Tokyo also has 3 million cars, so walkable/transit city and car free aren’t the same.
Do you think there could be some sort of balance? Something between the tactical approach of redoing a single road at a time and ... flattening all of Paris?

The way I see it, it can be hard for a centrally planned approach to meet all of the needs of the residents of each area. Is there some sort of way to adapt the incremental approach for the modern era?

Indeed, every area that is underserved by retail can most cheaply be incrementally improved by adding a strip mall, but strip-malls area really shitty local maximum to get stuck in.
> where housing is much harder to build due to regulation, zoning etc

The central planning must increase to overcome the downsides of central planning.