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by big_toast·1y ago·view on hn ↗
Do you have an opinion on how close the Quest 3 + Immersed can get to replicating an 8k 54" tv at 36" away? I know the VR panels are ~30 PPD (and there's other issues) and I'm asking for something that's ~60 PPD. But does blowing up the screen 50% work? (Or changing the aspect ratio, keeping the same pixel count and still scaling.)

MacOS just doesn't really play well with non-retina text anymore. I think windows/linux probably has clearer text at lower PPDs.

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I can only describe my setup, have never tried an 8k monitor.

I am guessing I have about 40 PPD. I still have a sliver of space on each side where I see part of my support screens (vertical 1080P on each side). It has a 110 degree horizontal FOV.

My main screen is driven by the MacBook Pro's native resolution (3456x2160). Immersed can create 4k virtual screens, but I don't really see an improvement, the Quest's panels are the limiting factor.

Not crisp like retina, but the size makes up for it. In very rare cases I just lean right up to the screens (they are 3 feet from me). As the focal point is somewhere 4-5 feet away, you can have your face right against the screen to see tiny detail.

Also the fast refresh (I have mine set to 120Hz) matters. I tried my work's Vision Pro. Yes, more crisp graphics. But it gave me motion sickness, there is a slight motion blur, the pixels don't seem to refresh fast enough. The Quest is rock solid, never felt unwell using it.

I really don't even notice it is not retina.

I see. So it sounds like you have the MBP set to the non-retina setting then passed to quest via immersed? (ie if you look at the laptop screen IRL everything is very small) But in the headset it functions almost as though it was nearly a 50" 4k TV. So presumably has the macOS text issues but worth it otherwise.

And the mouse latency is fine wirelessly?

(Sorry, I don't love the retina word but I haven't found a substitute since high DPI resolves to so many other things.)

Exactly, tiny text on the main screen (if I un-dim it, Immersed dims it automatically). I am not aware of text issues, I guess I never noticed any. There is a mouse emulation mode that is supposed to be more responsive, and native mouse - I use the native setup and don't notice any lag. Just have a good router and be close to it. Retina is the only word I know :) because it started way back on iOS/iPhone before it was that common. And probably because I use a Mac.

One other thing that is an unexpected bonus. It rains where I live. A lot. And when it is grey and dim, I can sit in a "sunny office". In fact, I even tweak my day to the virtual environments. Sunrise in a mountain lodge in the mornings, sunny office or ski chalet in the afternoons. Very positively mood altering.