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> Open-sourcing is fundamentally coming from our desire to build a successful business. We are competing with other highly funded, closed-source competitors, and we think opening and providing the resources for the community to improve Warp is a smart way for us to accelerate product development. Yes, we are a VC funded startup, but we do not have the resources to compete on price or massively subsidize usage – we need to build our business by offering the best possible product to the most excited community.
Appreciate the candid take. Warp is great.
Who are their highly funded closed-source competitors they claim Warp cannot beat on price?
Warp is the only closed source terminal product I know of. Most other popular terminal emulators are open source already.
I feel like their funding is drying up and this is their last ditch effort to have the "community" build their product for them.
They claim agents will run the show, with inputs from community in the form of ideas/specs/direction. I wonder how long that will be sustainable for given the subsidized model prices are collapsing as we speak.
Is this an attempt to pivot to something else while the "community" keeps their first product alive? Maybe I'm being too cynical here, but I don't see this as an act of good faith, especially given their roots in VC funding.
> Appreciate the candid take. Warp is great.
Sorry but I can't read this statement in a tone is not absolutely dry sarcasm.
Warp is a masterclass in how to have a great product statement, very nice UI and completely ruin it with greed, closed-source, and by not listening to your customers.
I don't know who at Warp got replaced and wants to "fix" things, but they have a lot to overcome. At this point, it might not even matter-- another product written from scratch might have better success.
I hope someone will create a lightweight version without AI and code editing stuff. The terminal experience is the best, but I don't have any use for the agentic stuff while having claude code, opencode, codex and plenty other options.
It's good feedback. We've tried to make it so there is a single "turn off all the AI stuff" button (and you can opt into plain old terminal during onboarding as well, with no login, etc). Curious if this does the trick?
I originally got into Warp because they made a terminal where my normal text input keyboard shortcuts work.
As they've been scrambling to find a way to monetize and riding the AI train, it feels more bloated than ever and the constant pushing for me to use "agents" and whatnot really put my off using it. Plus with all the privacy concerns I can't with good conscience use it on my work machine.
So yes, I'd like a non-tracking, no-AI version of Warp too.
This is a pretty good used case for vibecoding. “Claude, take this project and rip out all the obnoxious monetization and vendor lock in.” It just might do the trick. I’ve been to get rid of a fair bit of paid software by just cloning the parts I want with little more than a high-level description.
I don’t think the approach of open source as a substitute for a quality program is going to last.
100,000% I loved it when it was JUST good at terminal rendering. Ghostty alternative. Not a crazy bloatware AI play.
can you share more about what makes it so great. this is the first i am hearing about it , so i am curious.
i currently use tmux and ghostty for my workflow
You could probably few-shot this yourself by pointing at the repo. I'm 95% sure it can be done in a day end-to-end.
Can you confirm that Warp is NOT initiating any connection to any service whatsoever unless explicitly enabled in Settings?
Warp had an account requirement in the beginning which spoke volumes about the misalignment of values. Now the terminal is not called a terminal, it is "the agentic development environment" (whatever that means) which also lowkey implies that it might have some kind of online features. But at the same time I understand that it is now an absolute requirement to mention AI on any web page for any product.
Does it call home?
> Does it call home?
Absolutely, in heaps. The very moment you start Warp, it sends 5 HTTP requests, (1 version check, 1 LLM model list, 3 telemetry events). The former two go to app.warp.dev, the latter 3 go to warpianwzlfqdq.dataplane.rudderstack.com and include a persistent UUID, your operating system and version, Warp version, and the tracked event name and its properties.
All of this happens before you even see the window. After you're done clicking 'No' to all the SaaS nags, you can turn off telemetry in the settings, but for some reason it gets turned back on when you restart the terminal.
While the terminal is running, it calls home whenever you trip one of the events listed in this 7000-line long file: https://github.com/warpdotdev/warp/blob/d0f045c01bacbd845a63.... Besides all the hosts listed earlier, it also makes requests to o540343.ingest.sentry.io.
All in all, a privacy nightmare.
Literally installed and used Warp for the first time ever, asked the agent "/agent can you open a tab in the terminal for each build folder" and my account got disabled for AI immediately due to a "Terms of Service violation".
Very poor first time user experience.
Sad that they didn't open source the commit history. I would have loved to branch off of like 5 years ago when Warp was just a terminal, rip out all the AI and cloud shit, and turn it into just a nice terminal with some neat features.
My main driver has been Ghostty but I've been looking at Warp for a while. Warp seems like a full on IDE (~ADE) though, as opposed to a minimalistic terminal. Can anyone add some thoughts? Are these 2 very different?
tangential: I've seen Mitchel tweet that people in SF have ran up to him showing him how they fully riced their Ghostty setup. How many people here have done this and how easy/manageable is it? e.g. just forking the repo and implementing whatever Warp feature I like?
Interestingly i had been building a terminal in rust and libghostty(with Linux and windows supported too) with built-in agent that understands terminal, too.
And the motivation was warp is doing a little bit more than a terminal.
Glad to see now warp is open-sourced
+1 use warp every day. Needs some UX improvement around the agent stuff and file editor but I see it as alpha/beta software so I'm not too critical.
Glad to see such a move from the Wrap team.
It's been my go-to terminal emulator for a few years due to :
- Being able to drop in a brand new laptop and have almost all I need out of warp and a barebones ZSH configuration. I used to spend a lot of time on getting ZSH both fast and feature-rich, and it's brittle. Warp by default provides good auto-complete etc.
- Fast rendering and sane graphical defaults. I don't need to do much more than put my font of choice.
- QoL features regarding file rendering etc.
I've never used the agentic parts of it, when I needed CLI my company paid for Claude and I get most of my stuff done with what I get out of my Zed subscription. But I'd be more inclined to do so now.
Oh, not OS/2 Warp.
Any chance they could make it less than 850 MB?
I never really understood why anyone would use this when you can just fire up claude code from your favorite terminal.
I really like Warp. It's a lot nicer to be able to visualize what I'm doing in the terminal. Some people don't like the AI features, but they only activate if you log in.
Maybe someone will finally add tmux/zellij support…
Recently I've started to use https://superset.sh as alternative to Warp. After the volks @mastra mentioned it. Very cool open source project.
I'm actually pretty proud of the final setup I've created with it.
Each time I start to implement a new ticket, superset will pull the ticket from linear, create a worktree/workspace, reserve ports, start the servers, start a browser and start Claude with the ticket as instructions.
The cool thing with this setup is, I can have like 10x the same servers running on different ports/worktrees. Each time an agent is done, I switch to the workspace, look at the browser and can immediately test things.
It's like having 10 virtual desktops. Wonderful!
I predicted with 100% certainty that this company would fail at launch. What I failed to predict was how long it would take. I’m not bragging, everyone should see it coming.
Can I use it now without logging in?
I'm trying to understand what Warp is. I watched the 2.0 announcement, and it looks like it's an agentic editor that calls itself a "terminal" for some reason. I don't think the video shows a single terminal command being executed in a product called "Warp Terminal."
> Why now
I am skeptical that they decided human input is their bottleneck just as the cost per token spiked from some AI providers. I see this as a way to reduce their compute spend (offloaded to the community), but I doubt they are going to give up any creative control, so their employee review bottleneck probably won’t change.
I've been trying to figure out what the long term play is here - is it an angling for a frontier lab acquisition? Or does open-sourcing put Warp in the same sort of category as OpenCode - where charging for LLM tokens becomes the main commercial driver?
Trying it on Ubuntu 26.04 Desktop Guest w/VirtualBox on Ubuntu 24.04.4 LTS Host but getting a black window, nothing else: https://imgbox.com/WaOGe9gu
As someone who was interested in warp in the early days (new rust terminal!), but who would never use a closed source terminal, this feels like a pyrrhic victory, since I don’t care at all about the AI accoutrements.
Not convinced making it open source will increase their development speed.
Duplicate of https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47937349
(or vice versa; this one was earlier but has fewer comments)
I hope someone will make a version of Warp where I can bring in Openrouter key for free. Or any other provider, for that matter. I'd pay $5/10/month just to be able to use it.
Great terminal, annoying that everytime it updates I have to go back to the settings to disable new AI features or layout changes.
Open-sourcing the terminal so the agent business has somewhere to land is a pretty honest framing, at least.
Holy shit this made my day. Warp’s convenience shell wrapping is amazing. It’s the only terminal where I can actually edit a long command in place rather than copy pasting into an editor and doing so there.
Now I’m more or less assured I can retain this convenience without being forced into more AI crap.
Was hoping this was about OS/2. Nope, all AI grifts.
Well, very nice, will need to give it a try afer I check the requirements.
I almost went to Warp from DOS but Linux arrived first.
EDIT: well looks like this is not OS/2 Warp. I wish the title would have noted this is somekind of app instead of just saying "warp".
> OpenAI is the founding sponsor of the new, open-source Warp repository, and the new agentic management workflows are powered by GPT models.
Nice...
For those people above a certain age, no, this is not OS/2 Warp.
All six users will be disappointed.
This is great!
opens link...
... it's not about OS/2 3 or 4, but some AI thing, and apparently feels no need to disambiguate or even acknowledge the prior usage of its name
... closes tab
Recently cal.com became closed source fearing AI slop PRs! Isnt wasp scared of such a thing?
now someone please remove the login module