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What sort of engineering standards are these Cybertrucks built to?
Oh, very rigorous engineering standards. The wheels aren't supposed to fall off for a start.
Can’t be made out of cardboard either.
The Front Fell Off: https://youtu.be/3m5qxZm_JqM?si=DprOulmmDK-H76LX
Same standards as e.g.
2026
Audi Q8 e-tron:
"Popular electric car recalled due to brake pedal problem" [1]
A problem with a "screw connection" (unclear whether this is a mounting screw or it serves some other purpose) can cause the brake pedal to malfunction.
or, in 2024
Audi Q4 e-tron, Volkswagen ID.3, ID.4, ID.5 and ID.7:
"Dangerous error in popular electric cars: brakes can cease functioning" [2]
It says that the ABS pump could drop off which would cause brake fluid to leak out which in turn causes the brakes to cease functioning.
[1] https://carup.se/popular-elbil-aterkallas-for-fel-pa-bromspe... (Swedish)
[2] https://nyheter24.se/nyheter/motor/1296418-farliga-felet-i-p... (Swedish)
Well, the wheels may fall off, the body panels may fall off (weak glue), but the rest of it is OK right? Well, apart from the bulletproof glass?
So worst case you're rolling down the road on a chassis with no body panels, except you're not really rolling if the wheels fall off.
Hmm.. good job we're not letting in those cheap Chinese EV's and sticking to this top quality homemade stuff.
The same engineering standards as other Teslas are.
Meanwhile, about 63% of Tesla Model Ys failed their first mandatory inspection in Finland. The Tesla Model 3 did a bit better at 59% of cars failing their first inspection for the same model year. However, they're faring a lot worse than the third worst car, the Dacia Duster, at 23%, or other EVs like the Volkswagen ID.4 at 6%.
To the ones of people who like to move fast and break things.
The original vibe engineering
> What sort of engineering standards are these Cybertrucks built to?
'Vibe-Engineering'
And they’ll probably just tow the recalled trucks outside the environment.
Cheap ass studs, not surprised. Don’t tow with a cybertruck either, you can literally total it by ripping the frame out with the hitch.
It’s the most poorly engineered “truck” there is. Can’t tow. Can’t haul (stupid bed design). It’s just a glorified pavement machine.
"All 173 of the RWD Cybertrucks sold by Tesla are being recalled"
173...
I don't understand the problem, my new car had like 8 recalls in 2 years for problems that might happen, it's just normal
That I can't tell whether "the wheels coming off," is literal or figurative when it comes to Tesla is an indictment about their product quality at this point.
What a disaster. I don't really know anyone who is voluntarily buying Teslas when there are so many other viable options in an increasingly crowded marketplace.
All 173 RWD Long Range Cybertrucks have a defect that may potentially lead to wheel separation.
No crashes, injuries or fatalities have occurred. Much bigger recalls from other auto-makers in the past:
Toyota: 8-9 million worldwide recalled for "sticking" accelerator pedals and floor mats that would trap pedals, and a $1.2B DOJ penalty.
Kia 2015: also sticky pedals in various models.
Ford (1970's): 1.5 million vehicles recalled due to read-end collision fires from the fuel tank placement.
I saw one at a car show. They look even more shit in real life, than they do in photos. Probably quite good for killing pedestrians and cyclists though.
You know, this comments page saddens me. I came to hacker news years ago because every single post had careful, intelligent discussion. Countless times people clearly put their emotions aside and carefully followed the guidelines - be kind, don’t be snarky, be substantive, and when refuting a position don’t say that’s idiotic; say 1+1 does not equal 3.
Shock about the standards that led to cybertruck wheels falling off? Totally right. Discussion about Tesla engineering practices, servicing and business operations, and the influence of their leader on product - absolutely.
But statements like “No one is hauling anything in these anyway. The Cybertruck is a midlife crisis car for white-collar Indian dudes with money.” (Which, to be fair, was flagged so 100% thank you to the community)… or another user I won’t name who has multiple 3-4 word replies like “no it can’t” which is totally helpful in a discussion, are growing.
I know this is a messy topic; hate on the cybertruck and Tesla overall is high and we are all in a different headspace vs pre-covid. And I still come to hacker news because this is the best discussion forum left… but I’m sad about what we’ve lost along the way.
No problem, that'll buff right out
Seems the focus group guy's idea was good after all, kinda fair to just want a wheel that doesn't fall off while I'm driving [0].
Why should they do anything correctly? The stock trades at 400 PE. The market is telling them to keep doing whatever is they are doing.
Reminds me of this: https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2024/04/22/cyberyuck
Fully self driving wheels! People have been waiting for this feature.
Sorry, but every time I read news about the Cybertruck I have to think of the Simpsons Canyonero song:
Can you name the truck that's been recalled twelve times, Costs less each month 'cause nobody's buying mine?
Cybertruck! Cybertruck!
(Whip crack!)
Her trim falls off when you drive through rain, The steering locks up on the highway lane!
Cybertruck! Cybertruck!
Top of the line in utility trucks! Started at a hundred, now they're slashing bucks!
She's got a price that drops faster than her resale value, And a windshield wiper motor that'll surely fail you!
Cybertruck! Cybertruck!
(Whip crack!)
Twelve recalls in a single year! Drive-by-wire that fills your heart with fear!
The accelerator pedal pops right off the floor, But Elon says it's you who doesn't love her more!
Cybertruck!
She rusts if you look at her wrong in the dew, The tonneau cover works... for a week or two!
She's marked down like a Kmart blue-light special now, A stainless steel disaster and a broken vow!
Cybertruck! Cybertruck!
(Whip crack!)
Whoaaa, Cybertruck!
CYBERTRUCK!
They're replacing both front and rear rotors. Is there a reason the rears are different than the AWD models?
Jeez, "wheels not falling off car" has been a solved problem since at least the 1965 Corvair.
Lest folks get too carried away, the headline is a lie. The failure is "brake rotor stud separating from wheel hub". Now, sure, that's a serious failure. It's not "wh33lz f411 oFF!".
Everything about this company is cursed at this point. The jeering masses are just as bad as the CEO.
The cars themselves though continue to be really pretty great. Though maybe not the truck.
Rivian had to recall all of theirs for the same reason. Turns out a 3-ton car is hard to engineer.
Interviewer: Mr. Musk, I understand the wheels fell off the Cybertruck.
Musk: Well, that’s not very typical. Most vehicles are designed so the wheels don’t fall off.
Interviewer: But these ones did.
Musk: Well obviously. That’s why we recalled them. But wheel retention remains a very high priority at Tesla.
Interviewer: What caused it?
Musk: A minor component interaction that generated maximum freedom.
Interviewer: Freedom?
Musk: For the wheel.
xXxTeslaSpaceAIxXx could just solve this and their future orbital payload oversupply problem by launching them into orbit.
"Where we're going, we're not going to need wheels."
Did they glue on these wheels too, like the pedals that fell off?
When I was around 12 years old in USSR, my family took a vacation to Georgia to ski in a lovely resort of Gudauri. A big group of us skiers were riding a soviet made PAZ (or PAZik as it was often called) bus. It wobbled a bit since the airport, and about 100km into the ride as we were finally entering the mountains, it vibrated very badly. At some point the driver yelled really really loud - "everyone, to the left side of the bus, NOW", and we all moved to the left, and then we saw the rear wheel of the bus separate and roll forward past the bus. The pin holding the wheel in broke. Quality engineering, that pin design! I wonder if Cybertruck inherited some of that stuff.
The extension of Full Self Destruct mode
The wheels really came off this project.
Anyone still wants to buy a Tesla though?
The design used to be futuristic-novel. But novelty passes - it now looks like a car pressed to pieces in a shredder. And it is very expensive. But most importantly, after Elon did his right-arm raise gesture twice, even aside from mass-firing people at DOGE or elsewhere ... does anyone still want to give more money to a very strange oligarch, who uses money to buy more influence and opinions here? Or buys a platform to turn it into a propaganda amplifier for his strange remarks about race and ethnicity?
The cybertruck is such a disaster it should have gotten Elon fired but that is impossible.
“At this point, I think a know more about manufacturing than anyone currently alive on earth” - Elon Musk [0]
I hear Teslas have a bad habit of veering to the right.
Anti-elon fud incoming....
Please tell me they had the wheels studs mounted into a steel hub, and not aluminum…
Patently false headline, paywalled article, and blatantly left leaning source. Loving the state of media in 2026.
Junk
173 cars are being recalled. The Verge always tries to make anything remotely involving Musk sound as bad as possible.
If you're reading this thinking "wow, a recall! tesla must suck at building cars!" then you probably don't know anything about how the automotive industry works and you should refrain from commenting
It's worth noting that crack formation is affected by more than just the design - variation in material and manufacturing steps could also contribute. A more robust design can potentially compensate for material or process variability, but those variables were likely not known nor knowable during the design stage. We should not boo companies for acknowledging and correcting issues which may not have been reasonably foreseeable.