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I have a Flipper Zero and I've used it... occasionally. Like that one time controlling the Taylor Swift Eras tour wristbands: https://blog.jgc.org/2024/05/controlling-taylor-swift-eras-t... but it's mostly sat around being an odd device.

I duplicated a couple of RFID things, used the IR for some stuff, and once in a while used the radio receiver, but mostly it looks pretty.

I'm not sure what I'd do with a Flipper One, but I guess I've done a lot of things with Raspberry Pis so... maybe?

I had similar feelings but the comments below about adding an SDR to it with an M.2 slot got me looking a little closer. This has an 8-core Rockchip A72/A53 processor and 8GB of RAM. This is not an incremental improvement over the Flipper Zero, this is something else entirely. Hmmmmm...
I used it to scan my cat's microchips which let me catch that my recent adoption had the wrong number registered and correct it.

Today I used my swiss army knife for the first time in a year because I needed a narrow flathead in a pinch. Not all tools need to be used everyday. I can't remember the last time I used my 3/8" wrench.

Heh... I used Flipper Zero to clone RFID tags for all the neighbors to T5577 rings, pins, sticky pads and whatever not for our gated community.

If you are adventurous, many ski stations have low-tech cards as well, although they also tend to have human controllers once in a while.

And, finally, kids like running around with Flipper Zero opening power taps on Teslas.

I had plenty of fun reverse engineering a 433.92 MHz protocol curtain motors at my house use. Once that was done and I taught first my Flipper Zero, then a RPi with a C1101 to actuate the motors, the Flipper is sitting idly in the drawer.
I use mine all the time, in that it has a subGhz app that queries a raspi for the room temperature and if it gets above 78 degrees F it sends the 'on' code to the ceiling fan, above 85 degrees and it sends a couple of speed up codes. When the temperature reverse it sends slow down and then off codes.
I've always wondered what could be done with Flock-style cameras (that I own, of course).
I've had more success. Flipper taught me about sdr, and I was able to reverse quite a lot from my garage door pilot. Then I went on an adventure of cracking Keeloq cipher, and I haven't stopped since.
Mine got me an angry email from IT once because I accidentally plugged it into my work laptop instead of the charger. Two black cables right next to each other. Oops.
I have done exactly the same type and amount of stuff with my flipper zero, probably in the target demo. still, no complaints! I think the one is a cool toy that I will one day (if I’m lucky) use as the perfect solution for a problem. If I can do that just once, it’ll be worth the price for me.
maybe I'm blind, but it looks like there's no radio! like there's wifi and bluetooth, sure, but I don't see NFC or RFID or sub-1ghz radio, at all.

imo the flipper always needed to be a software-defined transciever, with a small FPGA to drive it, like the other SDRs on the market. I'm disappointed they seem to have forsaken radio completely.

Interesting. No IR/RFID/NFC? That's the primary use of my Flipper Zero. So this is meant to be a different device rather than a successor.
Display connected to the microcontroller instead of the Linux SoC is an interesting choice

Actually, putting all of this powerful hardware into a custom aluminum enclosure with gorilla glass and then using a 6-bit low resolution grayscale display is a weird choice. I guess they were going for a certain grayscale low-fi vibe?

The "needs verification" and "needs clarification" lines are weird. Like they asked someone (or ChatGPT?) to review some docs and post something, but forgot to review it first.

I wasn't expecting the Ethernet ports. I would love to be able to plug this in an know in a second what tagged vlans are preset, what addr/mask the DHCP server offered, is PXE an option? blink an LED if there's a new RA, ipv6 neighbor, etc. Blink an LED if there's been a 802.3x pause frame in the last 500ms, or 802.3Qbb while we're at it. With the pair of ports, let me MITM so the 802.1X negotiation can take place before I start sniffing.
What a weird thing to build.

I can just do all of it with a laptop. At that price point they will have to put it, it will not be worth it to buy it to carry it around to play around 'sometimes'.

Why the AI voice assistant? What? Is this perhaps a prank? That doesn't line up with the ethos of the Flipper Zero
I was getting very excited about this until I realized it's huge. Bigger than my phone in most dimensions. There go my dreams of a Flipper Zero-esque device I can port RockBox to and plug in for a low-power Linux PC...
It looks like a completely different product, not an evolution of the Flipper Zero.

The main focus here seems to be networking, not Radio/IR/etc... In fact it doesn't even have these features. They could be added but that would be missing the point. The point of the Flipper Zero is to have all these in a cute little package, and have a community around a common hardware platform. If you start adding stuff, there are certainly better/cheaper options, especially if you already have a laptop, or maybe even a smartphone.

Also the original Flipper Zero is about $200, it is at the upper limit of what can be considered a toy. Something you can buy without thinking "do I really need this?". The Flipper One is far more powerful, and the casing is not just a plastic clamshell, so it is likely to be significantly more expensive, so, not a toy, especially if you buy accessories, like a PCIe SDR.

Also, part of the appeal of the Flipper Zero is that out of the box, it does things that few non-specialized devices do, especially sub-GHz radio. The Flipper One is essentially just a computer. I already have WiFi and Ethernet on plenty of other devices, so it doesn't really open new possibilities.

I guess they are trying to go for a more serious tool this time, because as it is, I don't see people buying it on a whim like with the Flipper Zero.

Side note: There is a somewhat surprising lack of PoE, considering how much attention the gave to power management, and the fact that one of their use cases involve a security camera. Maybe they did consider it but some technical reasons made it impractical, 48V may be too much to handle.

I've heard some professionally inclined RFID engineers dismiss these as mere toys and not useful compared to professional grade hardware. Perhaps some of those folk are on HN if so what are the tool sets you actually use that can be sold to the public?
I use my Flipper Zero weekly (or more frequent). This new model feels much more powerful than the ones based on RPi Zero as a handheld device. I like how they managed to include two RJ45 ports and a USB-A port for connectivity. However, it's still too bulky for me. Perhaps when I get one, I'll try carrying it around all day to see how it goes. There's also a nano SIM slot. With the two Ethernet ports, it's perfect for use as a mobile router. This use case alone is good enough for me.

For such a powerful device, I think the lack of a QWERTY keyboard and the inherited orange backlit monochrome display are two of its shortcomings. I don't want to carry a keyboard or screen with me, I want it to be able to take more human input/output without accessories.

For those interested in hackable, handheld Linux devices, the M5Stack Cardputer Zero is also worth a look. It will launch on Kickstarter soon, and I have reserved an early bird spot.

Dual gigabit ethernet + even 6ghz wifi means this will likely work nicely as a travel router, which would mean I might actually carry it. There are a whole bunch of portable server use cases this opens up especially as it seems to have a bit of CPU grunt. My Zero was fun but has languished in drawers.
While I am fan for all the extra nerdy stuff, especially the cellular connectivity, but I doubt the battery endurance will be impressive, my current zero lasts weeks on a single charge. This is more of rpi plus addons in one package, great, but until we get to know the heat and battery life.
I like a device with these kinds of specs and this size, but I'd want all of this and all the hardware on the flipper zero as well. Seems all the RF/radio stuff is gone :/ I'd want at least that and more.
i think this can be confidently called a cyberdeck. some may say a full massproduced commercial unit goes against the spirit of che hobby but...

there are now hardware clones and evolutions(!) of the flipper zero, community alt firmwares, add-on thingymajigs etc; if they stay as open with this one, having some 'cyberdeck r&d' done with funding might be cool

e.g. if they do a good job on the os side, it could become a cool jumping-off point for a variety of builds

note i've never actually owner a flipper device or clone :p

- Unlike Zero this looks more like Teenage Engineering product for computer nerds. Price tag will most likely match this.

- Form factor will barely fit everything (battery).

- Specs are LLM generated/hallucinated. Can tell by writing/emoji style and specs itself.

- GPIO connector pinout specced by someone with no fast digital logic experience.

- Buying flipper zero was (is it still?) pumping money to russia. Even after pretending to re-allocate their infrastructure was still in russia before being hidden behind cloudflare.

No SDR? That's a bummer because otherwise it looks amazing. Yeah, I understand they are complimentary. But this would not be a big deal if you'd be able to easily connect both Flipper versions (wirelessly) and use the internal hardware and addons of the Flipper Zero with the Flipper One as if they were one device. Maybe even establishing a protocol that could be used to connect more external devices that understand their stndard.
Interesting. I'd expect to have at least low end SDR built in into the successor, else it will miss a lot of functionality without expansion board
I wish I could get the Flipper 0 or 1, but it isn't accessible from what I know. And I'd build my own (I'd use it for my AC which has one of those shitty IR AA/AAA-battery style) or maybe even a way for me to control it from the web... Hmm. Problem with doing that is that I'd either need a pi or similar, and a pi seems massively overkill for something like that...
I have a flipper zero which I use monthly to provision keyfobs for new members of the hackerspace I run. Great little device! This new one doesn't have an nfc/rfid reader/writer so the use-case is a bit befuddling. I'd love to hear how people would use this and how it might beat out, say, a used thinkpad.
A Swiss army knife of the day - after all, Swiss Army knives also serve a psychological purpose. And they do it well!
Technical specifications allow language models to run on this hardware (e.g. quantized 500 million parameter with 8GB LPDDR5 RAM). The Flipper One is AI capable and equipped with Ethernet, it can tackle agentic AI. I imagine a fleet of Flipper's, each with its own agent.
There’s a definite overlap between this and the Cardputer Zero: https://youtu.be/lhS0trmBAAU?si=lLmCKdK3eHyMMAR0

M2 slot or a clipon addon? Nice to see more Swiss Army knives in this space

Much prefer a sub-$100 optimisation of the Zero; tbh you probably wouldn't need change much.
Looks both expensive and power hungry, will be interesting to see how that works out
Lots wondering about the dropping of NFC/other contactless radios. I'd argue Flipper never did this as well as a real Proxmark, and the Flipper One does well to stray from the half baked implementation in the zero
I love my Flipper Zero, even though I have barely used it much. But I'm much more excited for the busy.bar which I think is from the same team. I'm hoping that gets ready to ship soon!
i think i'd buy a $279 refurbished steamdeck and a bag of usb-c sensor-widgets from aliexpress. ...In fact I did. I plug my flipper zero into it sometimes, too.
Finally a legit prop for movies not a pcb taped to a TV remote

I like that subreddit too with the e-ink display wifi probing thing forget what it's called oh pwnagotchi

Is there a reason the case angles out by the touchpad (like an antenna below)? That little feature pushes the overall length of the device up.
Two ethernet ports, this is lethal af
It has 2 Ethernet ports. I love it.
Side question: anyone know what they are using to make those 3d schemas with highlights?
I wish this thing looked more generic so the TSA won't confiscate it.
Only one wifi? There's more fun to be had if there was two.
No NFC, no 1-wire, no IR? That's some tough losses :(
Why put such crappy display on such a high power device?
Not RISC-V? Uncool.
Shut up and take my money.
No NFC or RF?