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by alephnerd·1mo ago·view on hn ↗
Nope. OP's right (and the only other person other than me who has pointed this out on HN).

ASML was one of the founding partners in Albany NanoTech in collaboration with SEMATECH which became the Upstate NY Semiconductor Cluster back in the mid-2000s [0][1].

It was out of SEMATECH that DUV and EUV Photolithography was productionized and licensed to ASML.

Much of the underlying IP used by ASML is licensed and firewalled under JVs with the US DoE and/or the SUNY Consortium (primarily their D/EUV light source work) or firewalled and export controlled by Taiwan (primarily their metrology work)

Btw, that tidbit has become one of the main vetting techniques I use now to see whether someone is blowing hot air or has actual experience in the Semiconductor industry.

[0] - https://www.eetimes.com/asml-to-build-400-million-us-researc...

[1] - https://www.eetimes.com/asml-sematech-team-on-manufacturing-...

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Ah man, too bad you spent half your comment thumping your chest and dissing others, just to flex on your incomplete semi knowledge, because if you would have just stayed humble when explaining things without throwing accusations, you'd come out looking better.

If you actually knew as much as you claim, you'd have known that ASML bought SVG in 2001, and became ASML US, so in 2004, it was ASML US, former SVG, that was investing in SEMATECH, not the Dutch ASML. It may have the ASML label, but it still remains a sovereign US operation, like you said firewalled form the rest.

I could be wrong about some of this, but if so then it's another good chance for you to flex again on how you know more than some of us.

The SVG acquisition was still part of the initial CRADA. Nor does it undermine my nor OP's point.

And it's not about flexing. I've gotten tired of reflexive Euro- and American nationalism on HN by people who don't work in the industry.

People dissing fairly hard European initiatives like Infineon work building a GaN wafer fab instead of one dedicated to logic ICs or going the complete opposite and postulating the EU can be completely cut off from the US and replicate every technology from scratch are both constantly brought up on HN and are ridiculous positions.