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by lioeters·9d ago·view on hn ↗
The best kind of propaganda is when people believe they're "thinking on their own" while repeating some convenient lie to keep the grift going. If you think that doesn't apply to you, then it's working as designed.
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At least I am falling to the best kind of propaganda. While the other side, who does not apparently even believe they're "thinking on their own", is falling to a much poorer one...
And nobody learned a thing.
At least there is some hope for that for the side who believes they can think.
You should stop thinking about sides. There are no sides.

There are different opinions and facts

Yea, the other guy also want me to stop thinking...
Have you read the IPCC report? Do you have any kind of physics education and experience in real world thermodynamics at scale?

Have you read, for example, Thermal Equilibrium of the Atmosphere with a Given Distribution of Relative Humidity - Journal of the Atmospheric Sciences Volume 24 Issue 3 (1967) - https://journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/atsc/24/3/1520-04...

Think away, by all means, but at least make it focused and directed and look beyond the shallow climate denial sites such as WUWT, JoNova, et al.

>Have you read the IPCC report? Do you have any kind of physics education and experience in real world thermodynamics at scale?

No and no, but I find it alarming when even trivial questions regarding reliability of methods used to estimate past temperatures are met with ridicule and appeal to authority...

And you are not doing much better. Instead of being curious and asking me what I actually think, or why I think it, you start throwing me research. You also assume that everyone who claims "to think" are coming from some propaganda resource. It is actually the shallow claims from the "convinced" that trigger my skepticism.

Actually the reverse is true. I would encourage you to think more and actually read and understand what 99% of science says since 50 years and why so many people come to the same results