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I've personally completely avoided the USA because of ICE, not because of principle of border policies purely from unpredictable treatment of people in custody with no recorse. Even if mistreatment are edge cases I've got no faith in the system to correct the wrong within itself. I've seen too many stories of legal americans and travelers not even getting bare minimum due process, or just being locked away for days no contact. I present and am read as a woman, if I get sent to male holding facility I'm just chum in the water. Which that decision could be made completely at the whim of the officer and the areas commanding officer, regardless of local laws.
> if I get sent to male holding facility I'm just chum in the water.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_people_in_prison

>V-coding is the practice of assigning trans women placed in men's prisons to cells with aggressive cisgender male cellmates as both a reward and a means of placation for said cellmates, so as to maintain social control and to, as one inmate described it, "keep the violence rate down".[170] Trans women used in this manner are often raped daily; and this process has been described as so common that it is effectively "a central part of a trans woman's sentence"
Where are you from?
Canada, I've turned down opritunities even in blue states over this being 100% honest. My Job used to involve myself traveling through the mostly the south. I'm lucky they are accomidating and shifted those responsiblties around but still pre-covid and a little 'post'-covid I was basically living month or so at a time in the south without issues.
Jail, jail, jail. Nothing less will stop these Gestapo-esque thugs.

And if you’re waiting for the mid-terms, you’re already acquiescing to their plans.

Also, it says something — to me, at least — that I have to think seriously before posting this. All I’m calling for is timely criminal prosecution of what I think and believe are crimes. I.e. for a lawful process. Yet doing so puts me at risk of an overbearing, unaccountable response?

This is some serious sh-t.

All enemies, foreign and domestic.
How does this square with FOIA obligations? I get ICE sidestepping transparency by avoiding creating the responsive footage in the first place, but once the body cam footage exists, what basis could they use to withhold it other than redacting footage for the typical reasons?
> How does this square with FOIA obligations?

ICE doesn't exactly have a track record of following any laws or courts in general. So I wouldn't expect them to answer any FOIA obligation.

This is the fundamental flaw uncovered in the US system by the current administration. Turns out that if one agency decides to go rogue and declare that no laws apply to them, there is no mechanism in place to prevent that.

“In April 2026, the Trump administration's Office of Legal Counsel issued an opinion declaring the 1978 Presidential Records Act unconstitutional.”

There is certainly an assault on government record keeping.

Also there is an assault on non-partisan governmental employees. This administration is politicizing government at all levels — bureaucrats are losing their legal cover in the fight for compliance.

Emily Bazelon of the Slate Political Gabfest talks about the federal government in legal cases is losing their _presumption of regularity_. Which is to say courts had previously dealt with justice department under the assumption they would follow laws and court orders. Not so much these days.

Funny side note. I had a BS moving violation ticket. I called to request camera footage from the police vehicle. I was told how to request it and received in the mail a polite refusal stating it was being used in an ongoing investigation. Ha! Mine. (I did have a court date, no video, but I did win my case).

https://americanoversight.org/investigation/presidential-rec...

> what basis could they use to withhold it other than redacting footage for the typical reasons?

The basis is "come and take it." A court order doesn't work on the brownshirts.

I mean, ICE is already sidestepping transparency by delaying FOIA requests to the Nth degree. Have a look:

https://www.muckrock.com/foi/list/?page=1&per_page=100&agenc...

Some people are calling it the administration with the biggest thumb-sucking babies of all time. Terrified little cowards, everywhere.

Things they have said are a threat to national security that must be prevented:

* Bodycam releases, broadly * Windmills * Not having a $400 grifted ballroom they had no approval for

They'll probably say the same about the golf course Trump is trying to install, as he takes over jogging/biking/picnic spaces from DC's Haynes Point this fall.

It's all made up. It's just an excuse to betray democracy, a cloak of darkness. Their own National Insecurity.

So, presumably, not when they murder unarmed civilians in broad daylight? Or deploy chemical weapons around schools?
I saw videos from my girlfriend's kid's friends. They go to a school near where one of the Minneapolis murders happened, I think Alex Pretti. They had to evacuate some of the dorms because the gas was seeping in. I heard the same thing happened to people's houses who live around there. That's terrorism.
There they go making “Abolish ICE” sound reasonable again.
Surely "Melt ICE" would be a catchier slogan.
It had stopped sounding reasonable?
This is why in almost all things the solution is less, not more, power to the State. That includes the violent, the legislative, and the judicial arms. Your favorite person or political position may be represented now but will not always be.
The interests of ICE should be the same as the public's interest, same as any other domestic policing.
If the public interest is divided, what should be ICE's interest? This applies to other enforcing orgs too. Should it take the majority even if the debate is close to a tie?

In most cases, what wins is the interests of people in power, for all domestic policing

This makes it easy to know when they murdered somebody - just check when they refuse to release the footage.
Surely the well being of the public is in the agency's best interest! Right? Right guys?
What I got from reading the article - but not the headline or the comments.

- ICE is moving to start using cameras (currently not using them) so this move overall increases the amount of footage that exists and can be released.

- Their stayed approach is analogous to other law enforcement approaches already in use.

So the headline should be "ICE to start using body cameras". I suspect this is in general good news for ICE - most police departments that once felt "forced" to use body cameras have found that the cameras have been good for their image. Incidents that could have previously been trumpeted as an unjustified police action now have the context of what the suspect was doing just prior that justify the action. I think ICE is betting on the same and the "look what our agents have to deal with" footage may get public airplay into their favor.

We'll see

Yes, I too benefit from controlling the publicity, messaging, narrative and history surrounding my actions.
Agreed, I hope the moderators here editorialize this headline to try and spur more neutral discussion. It's worth waiting to see what the outcomes of this would be.
im not sure why they would even bother with the cameras at that point.
This is no different than any other law enforcement agency in the USA historically - it’s a curated source of positive PR that they get taxpayers to fund - it’s never used willingly as a source of truth when law enforcement is in the wrong.
> im not sure why they would even bother with the cameras at that point.

Lots of data to feed into their Palantir systems to keep track of l̵a̵w̵f̵u̵l̵ ̵p̵r̵o̵t̵e̵s̵t̵o̵r̵s̵ terrorists.

Accountability theatre, quite literally.
It says why in the article... to make them look better by only releasing positive videos.
This feels illegal.
Acting like any other police officer at this point
Treason! Hold them accountable!
We have election in November, mobilize everyone you can and vote.
That’s not treason, just bad governance. They do need accountability though
Agreed. This is disgusting.
Big influx in politicsposting here lately, eh? Wonder what that's all about.
US midterms are coming up in November, politics are being thrust onto every corner of the internet at the moment.
ICE will release body cam video when required by the courts, and FOIA requests.

Just saying, you could FOIA so much video in about 2 months...

Bets on whether they'll harass people filing such requests?
Not a good look. I don’t think that in a free society, the government has “interests” that are different than the people’s.
How is this a `Hacker` new?
Anti-authoritarianism is a core part of the hacker ethos, so much so it’s even in the first paragraph of the Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_ethic
many users have been tricked into thinking that there is some urgent need for destroying their own civilization within their own lifetime.