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Do you really fail to see the difference between disclosing user info already on the servers to the NSA under legal orders and announcing a new product after the leaks, claiming it does not send any data, and doing the exact opposite without any additional benefit? Why would Apple do this?

I don't recall reading NSA can now force companies to include finger sensors, and then force them to collect data they wouldn't be collecting otherwise.

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I didn't say anything of the sort - just that major tech companies don't seem to really care about their reputation in relation to the NSA snooping. I'm not saying they've built in backdoors or anything either way, I'm just saying if they have, I don't think the average consumer seems to really care about it. Heck, I'd bet most of Hacker News is still using Google, Facebook, Microsoft products etc. and their reputations have hardly been tarnished by the revelations.

You are sound really really naive. You sound like the kind of person who is "shocked" by new scandals.

What is it that I said that sounds naïve to you?

That NSA can't force a company to include fingerprint sensors in their new phone?