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by zorked·12y ago·view on hn ↗
There is no evidence (yet, anyway) that any other country does surveillance at the level the US does. Stealing emails here and there is a completely different thing from spying on potentially every person in the world, no matter how you try to spin it, in the same way that murder and genocide are different things even if they are both about killing people.

But at least these leaks made the US halt their phony outrage at "Chinese hackers", which is a positive thing. We can move on to have a real grown-up debate about the effects of surveillance on democracy.