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by jader201·12y ago·view on hn ↗
No idea what this is. It keeps crashing Firefox for me. And unfortunately, restarting Firefox only restores the same window, sending me into a loop of crashing.
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I have no idea if it's FireFox's fault that it crashes, but you'd hope the developer would test on the major browsers.
> I have no idea if it's FireFox's fault that it crashes,

It almost certainly is. It could be an OS or graphics driver problem, but these options are far less likely.

It certainly isn't the site's problem: in the ideal world we don't live in (where browsers, drives and OSs have no faults) it is not be possible for any browser hosted code to take down the whole browser or worse, even if deliberatey trying to do so. The site may be doing something that highlights a problem elsewhere, that the site's designer may be able to work around, but that problem is not their fault.

If the crash is repeatable it would be useful to report it to the Firefox team as that may help them find the bug and therefor either fix it or report it further upstream if it isn't in their code.

> but you'd hope the developer would test on the major browsers.

The developer probably did, if by "major browsers" you mean "the latest of the two of the big three that are available cross platform, and maybe a mobile browser or two" as they were at the time of the site/app's last major update. But testing on all common browsers can be a time consuming process that demands significant resources (a Windows instance for each IE version considered, a Windows, Linux, and OSX instance for each version of Firefox or Chrome considered (as they sometimes hit different problems on different platforms), oh and don't forget that there are several common Linux arragements that you'll see actively used by many people, 8 Windows variants (excluding service packs as variants, 7 if you exclude XP), and a few OSX ones, and that is before you consider 32-bit and 64-bit variations and I've not even touched mobile platforms yet, ..., ..., ...).

Multi-browser testing can be a painful process and even if you either stick to a limited number of combinations (that covers for example 80% of your audience) and/or have the testing automated by some means, the results of tests that you run now might not be relevant tomorrow after a browser maker releases an update or an OS maker releases an update that somehow triggers a latent bug in a browser.

tl;dr: if the browser crashes that is never the site/app's developer's fault. If the site/app fails to work correctly in a given (recent and relatively standards compliant) browser than it probably is but there are practical limitations on what we can do to try acheive 100% correctness.

Are you sure you have updated Firefox? My firefox ALWAYS asks me if I want to restore the previous session. It also allows me to choose which tabs/windows I want to restore.

It also doesn't crash on this page either.

I was interested to notice that Firefox (28) re-opened all of the pages except that one.

But do open it in Chrome, it's lovely.

It crashed Firefox for me almost immediately.

I would have thought we'd gotten past the need for browser-specific code and the days of having to decide between ignoring the Netscape people or ignoring the IE people. It's bad enough that sites which simply don't work in a certain browser are becoming more commonplace again, now apparently some code is essentially hostile in the wrong browser.

Crashed on Firefox for me too, saw two - the diagrams looked pretty.