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by AlexeyBrin·12y ago·view on hn ↗
What I like about the project is that it is written in JavaScript and open source.

But this:

    a Sublime-like file sidebar
You could as well say, a VIM like sidebar if you install the proper plugin. There is nothing "Sublime-like" about a sidebar, TextMate had this earlier, other editors too.

What is with the proliferation of these "Sublime-like" editors lately ? Can't they just stand on their own ? This really looks like a nice project and I don't see the need to pitch it with "Sublime like" features.

Also, I assume that a "Sublime-like" editor has at least some of the Sublime Text plugin capabilities. I've seen no mention of plugins on the project page.

Love this quote too:

    ... many other features that will make you leave nano, vim, and emacs behind
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> There is nothing "Sublime-like" about a sidebar, TextMate had this earlier, other editors too.

I don't understand why every discussion like this devolves into a discussion over who did something first. It's completely irrelevant to the point. The quote you pulled says nothing about Sublime being the only editor to have a sidebar, or Sublime being the first editor to have a sidebar. It says that Sublime has a file sidebar, and this project has a file sidebar that is like Sublime. That is pretty basic statement of fact, your comments about other editors having sidebars is a complete non sequitur.

The "who did it first" stuff is always one of the most aggravating tangents in tech forum discussions. I truly just do not get it. Sometimes it's people reminiscing about computer history, which I usually enjoy, but most of the time it's someone who just wants to crap on whatever the thing being discussed is. It's a less downvotable way of saying, "I think this thing you just wrote is stupid, and my token excuse for saying this is because someone else did it before you, so nyah nyah nyah".

The canonical example IMO is the development of the modern GUI: in the '90s, people who liked to argue about dumb stuff would say that Windows is crap because it was "just a reimplementation" of Mac OS; this was usually followed up by some equally stupid argument from someone else about how the Mac was stupid because it was "just a reimplementation" of the Xerox Alto, and I'm sure that would be followed up by some primordial neckbeard claiming that the Xerox Alto was a steaming pile because it just a reimplementation of ENIAC with better graphics.

Also: GNU/Linux.

Thinking of it from the point of view of an academic, one generally credits the first to discover/build/describe/do something. It's part of placing things into context, which is an important element of academic discourse.

Wearing the academic hat, when I read something that fails to credit The First and instead credits someone else I think to myself, "this person is uninformed and doesn't really understand X..."

Hear, hear!

I tried desperately to suppress my "Shut the hell up you whiney bitch" response, but, alas, I have failed to do so in this case.

"... many other features that will make you leave nano, vim, and emacs behind"

Well, those three are basically identical, right?

It's a lot like saying that hinduism has features that will make you leave judaism, christianity and islam behind.

I guess nano doesn't have that kind of religious following, though. I certainly hope so.

Yeah, it's more like saying Hinduism has features that will make you leave Judaism, Christianity, and Chuck-E-Cheese behind.
The differences between Vim's windows and Sublime's drawer are big enough that it really is useful to differentiate between the two in this context. Vim's window splits are specific to the tabs that they appear in, while Sublime's drawer and (presumably) Slap's sidebar both cut across all tabs.

Plugins like NERDtree attempt to emulate Sublime's behavior using Vim-style windows. But although things are improving on that front, there are still some visible cracks in the implementation of the concept. The vi-like editors simply took a different evolutionary path, and this is one of the points where that shows.

> Sublime-like

Isn't that just VIM anyway?

I think Sublime Text was more influenced by TextMate than VIM. (I know that ST has a VIM like mode, vintage mode if I remember correctly).