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I'm filled with awe and respect when I look at this guy. He's brilliant and clearly dedicated to human wellbeing and liberation, and I can only aspire to even approach what he's accomplished so far.
But now comes the but.
I can't help feeling like he's focusing on the wrong scale, in a way that seriously impedes the likelihood of success. Let's be clear: the material basis he's living on is pretty shitty. He shits in a bucket? Freezes at night? That's the norm only in rural areas in developing countries, and his current focus isn't even on improving those things: other priorities trump it.
And that's directly because of the scale, which is too small. A group of a couple dozen people, even brilliant and hard-working people, simply cannot generate even the basic amenities of modern life, given contemporary knowledge and technology. But a town or smaller city? Problems that now seem insurmountable with his approach become routine.
I totally get that it seems awesome to re-invent the world from scratch, with a group of buddies and passionate volunteers. But it's ultimately escapist. It seems to me like open sourcing cheap manufacturing methods with a target economic scale of the metropolitan area would do a lot more to build a genuinely liberatory society. Sure, you end up more alienated from the material basis you live on than with his approach. But it's a much smaller transition--dare I say, a more agile one--than from global hyper-economies to hyper-local economies. And advances there would easily lend themselves to the hyper-local economies he desires.
Then again, I'm here bloviating, while he's out there doing stuff. Godspeed.
I will defend shitting in a bucket (although I agree with you in general). With a nice seat, some sawdust, and some care, there's absolutely nothing wrong with it, and in fact after using it for a while normal toilets seem outrageous.
http://theorganicsister.com/on-composting-toilets-and-humanu...
I heard about this a few years ago. So this is how it came out.
Think of this as a startup. The basic concept is interesting. A decade on, it's clear that the execution was botched. The article indicates at least the following problems:
- Trying to do too many things, and ending up doing them badly, rather than doing a few things well. Take a look at the list of machines being built, and the "percent completed". None have reached 100%, and only four are over 75%. This is after ten years. - Employee retention problems. (A major problem with any volunteer effort.) - Founder not into delegation.
This has been done before, better. There's a classic series, "Build Your Own Metal Working Shop from Scrap" (http://www.amazon.com/Build-Your-Metalworking-Shop-Scrap/dp/...) from 1982. You start with charcoal, sand, wood, and metal scrap, set up a forge, and cast parts. With the forge, you make parts for a lathe. That's book 2. Book 3, a metal shaper. Book 4, a milling machine. Book 5, a drill press. Book 6, precision tools so you can do accurate work. It's a lot of work, but people have successfully followed those directions and made machine tools.
Further back, there are the Foxfire books, from 1962 (http://www.amazon.com/The-Foxfire-Book-Dressing-Moonshining/...). This was the bible of the hippie "back to the land" movement. A number of communes were set up using those books.
In the UK this book started a movement of people wanting to be more self-sufficient, using small gardens and allotments to grow food and sometimes livestock.
We had chickens when I was young (about four, five?) and goats when I was a bit older.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1405345101/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qi...
(It would be nice if Amazon could offer cleaner URLs for sharing.)
They do exist, I don't know why they don't publish them more.
The following are valid on the UK store:
http://amzn.co.uk/dp/1405345101
http://amazon.co.uk/The-New-Complete-Book-Self-Sufficiency/d...
and on the US store they have even shorter variants:
> (It would be nice if Amazon could offer cleaner URLs for sharing.)
I do this a lot by cleaning up the URL by hand. Use dp/ followed by the ISBN number, like so:
I know some insanely talented mechanical engineers and none of them work remotely like this. The one characteristic I would say I've noticed in them that sets them apart is precision. They do all of the stress analysis on all the parts, up front, before they build anything. Then they prepare; testing, practicing, taking notes, and revising build plans. This way when they get to actual fabrication whether its a metal part, a complicated assembly, or a simple wooden box, things work. Period. Coupled with drive (which this guy apparently has in abundance) there is an unshakable, unflappable ability to concentrate. From the article and watching videos linked elsewhere here I simply do not get an impression of skill. (e.g. his welds are really really bad)
I am a mechanical engineer by training, and I think you are missing the point of this experiment.
This is the mechanical equivalent of a series of quick hacks. I don't think anyone expects these machines to last long or work without frequent maintenance. As I read it, the goal is only to enable a small community to be self sufficient; the machines should last long enough for them to accomplish their purpose. When they inevitably break down, the tools and materials will exist to repair or replace them, and the community will have the knowledge to do so.
The kind of up-front planning and precise design that you reference works when you have a large organization with a large pile of capital that is willing and able to spend the time and money to do something right the first time. This is optimal when that environment is present, but impossible for a small community of semi-skilled workers and farmers. The whole point is that the approach described in the article should work in the absence of professional skills.
...the tractor developed a leaky transmission. Jakubowski took it to a repair shop, which charged him two thousand dollars. Two days later, the tractor broke down again...
Transmissions can have a variety of problems that render them unusable without repair, but my first response to "it's leaking" would not be "spend $2000". Rather, it would be "spend $40 for another 5 gallons of hy-tran".
I think this guy just wanted to design and build some tractors. Not that there's anything wrong with that!
Most people would take it as an incentive to learn how to repair tractors but few would go in the direction of building their own tractor. For such an obviously smart guy it's not a very efficient use of either his time or capital.
I spent a few weeks in Joplin Mossouri. It's kind of boring
compared to the Bay Area; but I am seriously thinking about
living there, at least part time. There's a zen like charm
to that area--and it's not just because it's hot. The people were genuine, honestly nice, and trustworthy. The people ate horrid compared to our standards, drank, and smoked, but I have never saw so many functional old people.
I met guys who were pushing 90--still working, driving across the country to see their girlfriend, and genuinely
active? It was like walking in an episode of the Twilight
Zone. It was probally just my subjective observations, but
family and friends seem to have stronger bonds than here, they believe in a higher power, there was definetly less
pollution, and housing was dirt cheap. It was definetly
different than what I was expecting.
I was raised in the midwest and this comment really resonated with me. Most of us make fun of these people as "backwards rednecks", but most every backwards redneck I have met has been genuinely happy and led a pretty care-free life. I left KY to seek out my fortune, but sometimes I think I might have left it there instead.
This article is unsatisfying.
It describes him as having a laser focus, but as other commenters have said many projects are not finished and they are not self sufficient for food.
If you want to make open source sustainable tech you ret a warehouse and buy parts and do it. If you want to live sustainably off the land you buy John Seymour's "Self Sufficiency" book and buy a cow and some chickens amd plant crops.
The article talks about making things "from scratch" - but doesn't really define what that means. They're not smelting steel or winding their own motors. So, some things can be bought. The article doesn't mention what is bought. The tractor is a grwat example - farming is dangerous partly because of the machinery. A tractor is a tool and people tend to want their tools to be reliable and efficient. Learning how to repair older tractors is probably more useful than building a dangerous bad tractor.
The article doesn't explain whether he's learning from other people's experience.
Even the bit about living off rabits and chemical slop - he has to have the gloop-food because you can't live off rabbit (although they are tasty) but I'm not sure from the article whether he knows this.
Having said all that I freaking like the idea he has and I do wish him well. My criticism is mostly of the article than him.
I think your criticism of the article is really about the subject - this man has an ideological commitment to self-sufficiency, but the article is making a point that he has had to compromise that conceptual purity in order to get things done. Time and time again, the article points out Mr. Jabukowski's conflicted relationship with his farm's dependency on the outside world. For example:
The HabLab had been connected to the local water system
after a well ran dry, and in May it was hooked up to the
electrical grid. “It was an emotional trauma,” Jakubowski
said, and, he insisted, a temporary measure. “When we have
windmills and solar power up and running, that will end.”
I wish them good luck in the future. I think the influx of veterans, who seem to have a more task-oriented approach, may save the GVCS as a practical project, but that will be by throwing out the insistence that it will be created by a society that practices the ideals of the GVCS project from the get-go.
A link to the person's website: http://opensourceecology.org/
Also, I always want to remind folks of an immensely successful experiment in communal living, the Hutterites (who love technology, by the way, unlike the Ahmish):
The Amish don't hate technology, they're just very careful and deliberate about what new technologies they adopt.
There's wide adoption of technologies which improve upon, but don't radically alter, a traditional technology. For instance, many communities accept the battery powered lantern in place of a gas lantern.
I believe they fully except modern medicine for instance?
I though they believed many technologies disrupted happiness, because it took away from peoples interactions with each other. Or something like that. Which quite frankly is a totally plausible theory. Other than medicine/health technology I don't think there's a lot of proof other tech makes us happier directly. (Obviously someone needs to use a computer to make drugs, grow enough food, but it doesn't have to be them)
> I believe they fully except [sic] modern medicine for instance?
Wait a second. "Except" in this context means to refuse. The word you want, "Accept", means to give consent. Normally a malaprop like this is benign, but this one reverses the meaning of the sentence in which it appears.
Yeah, I had already parsed the phrase 3 or 4 times by the time I finally understood what had happened.
The way I heard it explained -- they prefer to avoid any technology that leaves them too dependent on others outside of their community. Otherwise the outside can have some influence / control over them, instead of being self sufficient. These rules can be relaxed where safety is concerned (i.e., lights on their carriages, refrigeration for the milk), but the lights are powered by batteries that they charge on the farm (from the diesel generator that is used to power the milk refrigeration).
His TED talk - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S63Cy64p2lQ
His OSE - https://www.youtube.com/user/marcinose/videos
Looks like the initial ambitions have been scaled back to what they use to be, at least in time frame.
Here is a good video of the Compressed Earth Brick press, the workshop they built with the bricks and a brief shot of the interior of the dorm:
Also their FB Photo stream has lots of interesting work in process pics:
There are lots of brick presses available on Alibaba, starting at about $900. Some of them look very much like this one. Cheap ones are available from India and Zaire. China mostly uses larger, higher-volume machines. Also, most people put a little cement in earthen bricks, about 5%. They hold together better. It's common to put in holes for rebar, which is pretty much mandatory in earthquake country.
If you want to build from earth, there's rammed earth construction. It's even simpler than compressing earth into bricks. You set up wood forms, as if pouring concrete, put in about 4" of dirt, and pound it into sandstone. This can be done by hand, or with an air hammer.
All this works if the soil composition is reasonably suitable. There are simple tests. (Too much clay is bad.) It's usually possible to find nearby sources for suitable dirt.
This guy seems to be re-inventing the wheel.
The whole point is to reinvent the wheel. Which I think speaks to the practicality of this whole endeavor.
"radical experiment in self-sufficiency"
"It took him two months and seven thousand dollars, most of it donated, to build the tractor."
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it does.
Also, if you find the topic interesting, I highly recommend the techno-thriller duo of books, "Daemon" and "Freedom(TM)" by Daniel Suarez. They end up touching on this topic, by the second book.
Perhaps your understanding of the word is a little extreme. Self-sufficiency doesn't imply everyone has to survive on their own from day zero, starting naked and fisting trees to build a crafting table...
One has to admire this man's grit, discipline and inventiveness. It's inspiring in a way, and makes you want to cheer him on.
OTOH, a part of me feels this effort more resembles idealism driven by a historical scarcity event. I suspect this emotional subroutine could be fueling his mission, rather than the logical post-apocalyptic rationalization he puts forth.
Why can't both be part of the reason? You experience a scarcity event, and driven by it you try to find a logical reason so you can have a better response next time. I think the response to his scarcity event is great!
They can both be, but there are two things to note. One is to make the distinction between being logical and being rational. So in this man's context I think it's fair to he may have logically coherent reasons for doing what he's doing. (ie it's internally consistent within his own framework).
However, I'd question the overall rationality of this. I mean we're on a path of accelerating technologization, AI, robots etc, and this guy wants to head back to the bronze age. So while there's a certain charming appeal to his vision, one should consider being a simple land dweller has traditionally not worked out so well, for those less advanced cultures. [1]
> I mean we're on a path of accelerating technologization, AI, robots etc, and this guy wants to head back to the bronze age.
I don't think he wants to head back to the bronze age. The reverse seems to be true; he wants a future where everyone has vast knowledge and a wide set of skills, and everyone has his own CNC multimachines, robots, all that. Why not AI?
But to achieve that, you need to take a few steps back from the technology that is currently operative in large corporations with the capacity to invest millions into it. If they can bring the price point down and simplify the machines enough that they're accessible to everyone, then the capability to produce more and more advanced technology is spread wide. Through open source design, people would share recipes, ideas and improvements into these homemade devices; technology would advance faster and it'd be easier to get machines that solve special problems for which the solution right now would be far too expensive because there's no mass market for it.
Your comment clarified exactly what is so willfully foolish about this whole enterprise.
"he wants a future where everyone has vast knowledge and a wide set of skills, and everyone has his own CNC multimachines, robots, all that"
It is a nice fantasy to imagine everyone everywhere being self sufficient, but unlike the movies, a single person does not have the time nor the mental capacity to become an expert at everything. Specialization begat the modern world (and vice versa).
Mao had a great idea to make everyone self sufficient by forging steel in their back yards to instantly industrialize. No one knew what they were doing properly, so you got massive quantities of nearly useless scrap, fueled by wasting previously productive inputs. The parallels are striking.
You missed the point about "open source", or information sharing. With the right machines and a library of shared knowledge, you don't have to be an expert at everything.
But if people actually strived for it, and their lives began in communities where building, maintaining and operating your own machinery is a part of life, most people could actually actually know heck of a lot about them.
I don't think the drive is anything to do with post-apocalyptic. Its more to do with decoupling from dependency on the "rat race" as much as possible.
>> apart from a small grocery in nearby Maysville (pop. 1,000), the closest supermarket is fifteen miles away.
This might sound insanely far to urbanites, but this is par for the course for anyone living outside of the suburbs. I grew up 2 hours outside of DC. Driving 30 minutes (which equals 30 miles) to do your shopping once a week was not uncommon.
Now, being in DC, I've had to adapt. Thirty miles is an hour, at least, probably closer to an hour and a half. It feels ludicrous. To not be able to travel wherever I want, whenever I want, in a predictable amount of time, is very disconcerting. And don't get me started on public transit. Travel is either long or short. Long is over 4 hours and involves me being a passenger and getting work done while I'm doing it. Short is anything else. Anything over half an hour for short travel is unacceptable for me. I can't make money during short travel.
I've been keeping track of--and secretly hoping my urban-born wife would volunteer for--the Global Village Construction Set project for years. It's had some progress issues, but ultimately the reasoning is sound. For the same reasons we love FOSS in the software development world, Jakubowski is pushing towards an earlier time when fixing your own truck was not outlandishly difficult.
But I do have to say this:
>> He likes things to be scheduled,” his fiancée, Catarina Mota, a forty-year-old scholar of open-source technology, says. “I’ll say, ‘I want to go buy some bread.’ He’ll say, ‘What time?’ ”
Is concerning. I've personally found that people who couldn't be flexible in one aspect of their life were unlikely to be flexible in most other aspects. In other words, the people I know who like strict schedules, or readily admit to "hating change", are the most likely to harbor rather deep-seated, irrational prejudices of some kind. And it just continues with stuff like this:
>> We foresee an equal playing field of competent, well-organized, small-scale, decentralized republics after the borders of empires dissolve.”
No, I'm sorry, that's not how civilization works. If you read between the lines of the "big government" scare mongering, that's all it's talking about--big versus little government. And the "little" that such people talk about is not one that is more just, free from corruption, it's the road back to feudalism. Large, federalist government has provided us a means towards equality and justice unlike any the world has witnessed prior. There is a reason developed countries don't expect their police to be "funded" through "voluntary donations" aka bribes.
Being able to service your own equipment is orthogonal to discarding 250 years of hard-learned facts about government.
> Large, federalist government has provided us a means towards equality and justice unlike any the world has witnessed prior.
Those two concepts are fairly vague and subjective, but assuming they have increased, what makes you think that large federalist governments are the cause, rather than, say, the industrial revolution, medical breakthroughs, or population growth?
I don't understand your geography of groceries. If you are in a dense city where congestion means that 15 miles is a 90-minute trip, it is almost certainly true that there are hundreds of grocery stores in a 15-mile radius, right? Isn't the important thing your actual distance to a grocer, rather than the time needed to travel 15 miles?
Zero pictures. I guess we'll take the author's word on it.
It's the New Yorker. They spell "coordinate" different than the rest of the English-speaking world.
I find it endearing, alternating between slightly pretentious and iconoclastic. But in the words of Yoda, "no, there is another" - MIT Technology Review.
See http://www2.technologyreview.com/tr35/profile.aspx?trid=976 - "Rybalchenko is currently seeking ways to detect similar bugs that can appear when many processors work simultaneously on the same task but fail to coördinate properly and begin competing instead."
and http://www.technologyreview.com/news/428330/startup-has-lang... - "In 2000, he helped develop the Captcha—the test that websites use to distinguish humans from spam-spewing robots by asking them to reënter blurred or distorted strings of letters and numbers.")