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1. I admit Angular documentation sucks, but that's not atypical in any open source. It's getting way better btw, and there are tons of resources from 3rd party.

2. Which toolchain are you referring to? If we're talking Web/JavaScript (where Angular is for), I can say the toolchain e.g. Grunt is quite recent.

3. I somewhat agree with this. We can use e.g. Chrome Dev tools and Batarang (Angular Chrome plugin), but definitely there's room for improvements.

5. Care to elaborate your definition of free? Even for Java, I can say a significant ecosystem for Java is open source. Sure, some Enterprise prefer Java Enterprise Edition, but many are satisfied with Spring and other open source Java-based solutions.

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2. Templates and existing JavaScript code - i.e. Bootstrap, jQuery, templating languages and other existing app components. With Backbone you can easily use any JavaScript library - because it itself is just JavaScript. I really don't like how angular forces everything to have a ng-something derivative.

5. Angular is not free because it is this monolyth that only the sage men within the temple of G can comprehend. The sages give you an incantation for a ritual and you, the believer use it. If it is not yet, then its core is going to become an indecipherable mess - built to serve the temple of G. Google is building it for itself and as usual doesn't really care about anything but its own objectives. Whatever they may be - a user might find itself in the same situation that i.e. Silverlight users found themselves after MS decided that Silverlight was not a good idea at all.

2. Nothing's stopping anyone from using 3rd party libraries within an AngularJS application - using React for the view layer, for example. Angular encourages the use to separate concerns (mainly DOM manipulation) via directives, instead of mixing that logic into other parts of your application (like vanilla JS, jQuery and Backbone tend to do).

5. You're wrong, and your argument is invalid. It's open source, legible, modular and fully comprehensible if anyone bothers to dive into it.