I wonder if steam would be "green" today. I've got an electric steamer that I use as an alternative to ironing clothes. It probably takes a lot of electricity to turn water into steam but who knows.
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Wolfram Alpha does!
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=energy+to+heat+1l+of+wa...
Resistive heating to produce steam is very expensive, relatively speaking. It's the most expensive way to do it, AFAIK.
Why is that true? Just because of the loss of generating electricity from heat sources only to turn it back into heat?
Because isn't an electric heating coil essentially a big short-circuit? I would've thought it would be extremely efficient at changing electricity directly into heat.
Resistive heating is terribly inefficient as a heating method in most cases. Much more effective(in most cases) is stuff like heat pumps. Remember, you aren't grading it on "amount of electricity turned into heat", but on "amount of heat added per unit of energy". You can technically push that above 100%. A good heat pump can do something like 3.5 CoP, i.e. you put in 1 kWh of electricity, it heats the "hot side" by 3.5 kWh of heat.
Your answer is correct, but remember that if we are heating steam, it is at a much higher temperature differential than a typical heat pump. Good luck getting a COP of 3.5 from room temperature up to steam engine temperature. Steam engines operate at well above 100C. Actually, good luck even finding a heat pump that will operate at those kind of temperatures.
There is a huge gap in what is commercially available in high temperature heat pumps for e.g. boiling water. The best example that I am aware of is the EcoCute for water heating. Heat pumps are much more efficient for heating water for domestic use than resistive heating. However, the only ones on the market are fairly expensive. I'd be very interested if someone on HN knew of a better option.
I've tried building my own high temperature heat pump to go up to around 300C. It isn't easy, because most refrigerator technology is not designed to operate above 100C, so if you use off-the-shelf parts the seals will go or various temperature limit switches will actuate. Then if you try marrying engine parts to AC parts, you have to make your own high-pressure adapters. Overall, its a great way to burn a lot of dollars and hours in the garage.
I've considered just buying a Stirling engine and running it backwards, but I've not yet found one which is designed to be able to run effectively as a heat pump. Any Stirling aficionados here? I'd love some advice on using a Stirling as a heat pump.
Norwegian company doing high temperature Stirling heatpumps:
Sincere thank you for the link!
If it were that simple we would have unlimited free energy by simply using heat pumps to power steam turbines.
I don't think heat pumps can generate very high temperatures efficiently.
Resistive heating is 100% efficient by definition. There is almost no energy lost. the only loss of energy is light generated.
Resistive heating is 100% efficient, yes, but the electricity required to power the element is rarely above 40% efficient for most combustion powered sources (combustion turbines, combined cycle, etc.).
The thermal losses at the power plant are kind of a bummer.
(My vague understanding is that heat pumps are not cost competitive with natural gas for winter heating)